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Oh,
That all seems wonderful, just what I was looking for. I love your site, the girls seem happy and relaxed! Thanks a lot for highlighting your stuff, I'll put together an email and photos, send them across. I think I would like working with you!
That all seems wonderful, just what I was looking for. I love your site, the girls seem happy and relaxed! Thanks a lot for highlighting your stuff, I'll put together an email and photos, send them across. I think I would like working with you!
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Um, I don't know how to explain this to you, but 'serious work offers' don't get emailed from a hotmail email account. If you actually have a serious work offer, point me to your business website. To be blunt, I'm not going to arrange to meet you for 'work' in a car park off the M62 based on a chat via a throwaway email account. It all sounds a bit too rapey.
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Hi, if you point me to your website, I'll contact via that. I'm afraid I'm not discussing 'work' offers via hotmail, it's too risky as I have no idea who you are or what your plans for me are. If I can't see a business, I'll assume you want to take advantage of me.
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H and thanks for the advice. I don't really want to discuss my motivations, but thanks for the interest in my mental wellbeing!
I see from your site you offer pay ?300 to ?1000. That's interesting, I'll drop a mail with my portfolio and info, and maybe we can work something out.
I see from your site you offer pay ?300 to ?1000. That's interesting, I'll drop a mail with my portfolio and info, and maybe we can work something out.
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How about you stop trolling girls on Internet forums? There is a fine line between expressing your opinion, and repeatedly insulting a model on a public forum. You may think it makes you look cool and opinionated, but it makes you look like an argumentative and probably violent predator.
Why not ask a policeman if threatening to set fire to a girl is 'cool' or not. You know that line between 'works in the sex industry' and 'on the sex offenders register'? Well, you're heading towards the second.
Just because I'm a girl who actually admits sleeping with men, rather than living like a nun, does not give you any reason to insult me repeatedly.
Fuck. Off.
Why not ask a policeman if threatening to set fire to a girl is 'cool' or not. You know that line between 'works in the sex industry' and 'on the sex offenders register'? Well, you're heading towards the second.
Just because I'm a girl who actually admits sleeping with men, rather than living like a nun, does not give you any reason to insult me repeatedly.
Fuck. Off.
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Abby Winters does have a very good reputation in the adult industry although I have never worked with/for them. I have, however, worked with Masie a few times and have to say that she's a lovely girl who I would highly recommend.
I agree, I think you would like working with Abby Winters and suggest you do so should they offer you anything.
Myson
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I agree, I think you would like working with Abby Winters and suggest you do so should they offer you anything.
Myson
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I don't know where you got that idea from. Genuine serious offers do get emailed form all sorts of email addresses. Hotmail or suchlike email addresses don't make the person less genuine, evil or less serious about their work. My god if i took that attitude i'd never have worked with the majority of established genuine models that i have done.
Not every professional producer has their own site. Many like myself simply sell-on to other sites based abroad.
I have been producing successfully since 1996 where i started selling to top shelf magazines. In about 2005 i started selling to websites.
All in all so far i have produced thousands images/films of approximately 400 different female models, the majority of which are hardcore b/g. Ranging from award winning well known models to new starters.
....all without having my own website/email address. I simply use photographer profiles on such sites like PS that you mentioned you are on yourself.
I pay ?100 to ?150 hourly rather than daily, so hour-for-hour my pay is better than a lot of the big companies with their own sites that as a new starter will pay you "on average" ?350 a day. Of course my overall pay is lower as i don't do long shoots, 2 hours max, as i feel day long shoots can drag on a bit. I do however offer repeat bookings and have done over 20 bookings with the same model before.
Its nice to see someone with a bit of attitude but it's better if you have a good understanding of the realities first ... on your own admission you don't know the business yet and are worried about being underpaid/exploited.
Personally i feel the big companies that will book you for a day are the ones that will try to "exploit" as you will do many "scenes" in that time and be all over the internet for what ? ... a days pay. Look at BangBros as an extreme example - they are around 40+ sites now i think.
In the old days the standard rate used to be ?350 for 1 scene - so the amount of men/scenario would be agreed and this would last 3 to 4 hours max in total with the solo stuff, b/g stuff etc. Nowadays it seems for around the same pay you are required the whole day (up to 8 hours) and will do lots of scenes. This is why i feel my rates are reasonable and fair to the model, and this seems to be held up by the fact i get so many shoots with experienced and new models.
The occasional model that has attitude and doesn't shoot with me really isn't an issue and i wont cry about it ... the point is that rates have reduced because so many girls want to get into the business and therefore the market is swamped with great new models. Some make it some don't, some are time-wasters, some worry about their kids seeing stuff, some can't handle it, some want to have a more settled job, some get a bf who doesn't agree with the work, etc. Unless you are "lucky" enough to cross every hurdle the working life of a hardcore b/g model is generally short. In fact i'd say the majority of hardcore b/g have a timeline in their mind to finish anyway, say perhaps 2 years. So most models consequently do take offers not only from big companies, but also the smaller producers like me. Its just the way it is if you want to get as much money as possible in the time you have given yourself or hope to last.
I will take your posting as your refusal of my job offers, but hope you find some of the info useful.
Not every professional producer has their own site. Many like myself simply sell-on to other sites based abroad.
I have been producing successfully since 1996 where i started selling to top shelf magazines. In about 2005 i started selling to websites.
All in all so far i have produced thousands images/films of approximately 400 different female models, the majority of which are hardcore b/g. Ranging from award winning well known models to new starters.
....all without having my own website/email address. I simply use photographer profiles on such sites like PS that you mentioned you are on yourself.
I pay ?100 to ?150 hourly rather than daily, so hour-for-hour my pay is better than a lot of the big companies with their own sites that as a new starter will pay you "on average" ?350 a day. Of course my overall pay is lower as i don't do long shoots, 2 hours max, as i feel day long shoots can drag on a bit. I do however offer repeat bookings and have done over 20 bookings with the same model before.
Its nice to see someone with a bit of attitude but it's better if you have a good understanding of the realities first ... on your own admission you don't know the business yet and are worried about being underpaid/exploited.
Personally i feel the big companies that will book you for a day are the ones that will try to "exploit" as you will do many "scenes" in that time and be all over the internet for what ? ... a days pay. Look at BangBros as an extreme example - they are around 40+ sites now i think.
In the old days the standard rate used to be ?350 for 1 scene - so the amount of men/scenario would be agreed and this would last 3 to 4 hours max in total with the solo stuff, b/g stuff etc. Nowadays it seems for around the same pay you are required the whole day (up to 8 hours) and will do lots of scenes. This is why i feel my rates are reasonable and fair to the model, and this seems to be held up by the fact i get so many shoots with experienced and new models.
The occasional model that has attitude and doesn't shoot with me really isn't an issue and i wont cry about it ... the point is that rates have reduced because so many girls want to get into the business and therefore the market is swamped with great new models. Some make it some don't, some are time-wasters, some worry about their kids seeing stuff, some can't handle it, some want to have a more settled job, some get a bf who doesn't agree with the work, etc. Unless you are "lucky" enough to cross every hurdle the working life of a hardcore b/g model is generally short. In fact i'd say the majority of hardcore b/g have a timeline in their mind to finish anyway, say perhaps 2 years. So most models consequently do take offers not only from big companies, but also the smaller producers like me. Its just the way it is if you want to get as much money as possible in the time you have given yourself or hope to last.
I will take your posting as your refusal of my job offers, but hope you find some of the info useful.
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Ok, I'm going to assume you are serious. Its far from unknown for people to come on here and fool around just to wind people up...its not unusual for guys to pretend to be models just for that purpose or for models boyfriends etc to pretend to be them.
I,ve read your other posts and I suspect by your reaction, you are are looking for work in the wrong place, this is exactly the type of site you will receive numerious dodgy offers from, as well as some perfectly genuine ones, which will often be made via hotmail etc simply because most people on here offering this type of work are semi-pro or doing it for their own use etc, but this in itself doesn't mean they are dodgy.
Any internet site has its share of legitimate producers and its share of chancers. This one is no different.
You can obviously use google, so maybe it would be better if you used google and contact producers or companies directly and offered your services. That way you would know exactly who you are talking to.
I,ve read your other posts and I suspect by your reaction, you are are looking for work in the wrong place, this is exactly the type of site you will receive numerious dodgy offers from, as well as some perfectly genuine ones, which will often be made via hotmail etc simply because most people on here offering this type of work are semi-pro or doing it for their own use etc, but this in itself doesn't mean they are dodgy.
Any internet site has its share of legitimate producers and its share of chancers. This one is no different.
You can obviously use google, so maybe it would be better if you used google and contact producers or companies directly and offered your services. That way you would know exactly who you are talking to.
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LOL please stop your killing me... you come on a Forum brand new to it all, asking for peoples advice... then you try and be about as rude a cunt as I have ever heard... good luck with making it in the industry when you talk to people like shit... maybe you think your something special...
Of course you will get most of the guys on here kiss up to you... Maybe you should be a financial dom with that personality of yours...
You call me a Troll lol... now that's funny, I have a sneaky feeling that's exactly what your going to turn out to be... either that or one total nut job !
Good luck working with this one guys... after reading her posts (and no not just silly shit aimed at me like comments about sex offenders lists lol) but the way she gobbed off at "we8derby" and "scarlette march" two established members... we wouldn't work with her if she was giving it away...
Of course you will get most of the guys on here kiss up to you... Maybe you should be a financial dom with that personality of yours...
You call me a Troll lol... now that's funny, I have a sneaky feeling that's exactly what your going to turn out to be... either that or one total nut job !
Good luck working with this one guys... after reading her posts (and no not just silly shit aimed at me like comments about sex offenders lists lol) but the way she gobbed off at "we8derby" and "scarlette march" two established members... we wouldn't work with her if she was giving it away...
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