Scottish Independence

[Porn Baron]

You seem bitter? You can have your say now.

[Toliverwist]

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Porn Baron
Date: 10-29-12 14:36

You seem bitter? You can have your say now.
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I'm English!

No 'say' for me!

[Toliverwist]

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Robches
Date: 10-27-12 14:01

Toliverwist wrote:

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>
> The people of Scotland still weren't asked whether they wanted
> rescuing by a union with England, and the people of England
> still weren't asked whether rhey wanted to rescue Scotland by a
> union.
>
> The peoples never had opportunity to authorise the actions of
> the two governments. The union was an imposition with no
> democratic legitimacy, and if only the people of Scotland now
> get a referendum, then, in the event of a vote for the union,
> it will still have no democratic legitimacy.
>

If you are trying to impart a modern concept of democratic legitimacy to 1707 then you are wasting your time. You cannot judge things done then by our standards.
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The Scottish referendum is being held under 2012 standards.

However, the English are being denied their chance of a 'first refusal', and here the, 'first', is temporal not demographic.

However, however, the 2012 Brit/UK LibLabCon BBC* standards are inferior to the standard of democracy elsewhere.



*BBC: Blair Brown Cameron