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My man the papers were full of it.

He was totally addicted to 'crack', you know - "crack"!!!!!


Geddit now?


Oh my god do l have to spell it out - P.U.S.S.Y. (CRACK)

dog wrote:

> Robches wrote:
> "you have to look at the evidence against him as a whole."


> So if Mr Armstrong has been taking Drugs let see some real
> proof, that is what I want to see. Yes if he has taken drugs
> then it needs dealing with, but until it is proven, you can't
> make him "guilty" can you?


If he had bothered to defend himself at the hearing, then you would have seen the evidence. He would have had sight of the evidence against him, and decided not to contest the case. That doesn't make him innocent, it makes him guilty.

If it is done fairly and he is found guilty then that is fine.

But the problem isn't if he is guilty or not, it is the way the USADA have/are conducting this whole sorry affair, first they don't have power to remove his titles but they think they do, then when asked for some proof they haven't as yet shown any of it, the UCI still awaiting this evidence, and what will happen if they don't agree? That is going to be a difficult situation for them if the world cycling authority ends up saying that the USADA is misleading the public plus sports men and women etc it will discredit them. Other problems are if Mr Armstrong has his titles removed who will be the winner of the 7 tour de france races he won? Given say they think the samples are positive or something is wrong with the testing, then all samples are deemed wrong and not just Armstrong's.

If they would have joined up and worked with the UCI and respected due process they wouldn't be in such a mess. They must be hanging on to the hope that UCI will agree otherwise what they claim just will not be worth a shit!

Add to this, they had at first said they would remove only 2 of his tour titles as their rules, yes "their rules" only cover the last 8 years, however when Armstrong said go ahead I am not playing they then said they take them all!

Even if he is Guilty, something is wrong when nobody can see any of this evidence.

I think the question of the Tour titles is secondary. Personally I would rather see them declared void, as the whole period was so dirty it's hard to find a clean rider to give them to. As to the evidence against Armstrong, he clearly did not want it to be aired, hence his decision not to contest the charges. That's an admission of guilt whatever spin you put on it.

Robches wrote:
"As to the evidence against Armstrong, he clearly did not want it to be aired,"

"evidence against Armstrong" fucking hell what "evidence" still as yet to be release, r u for real?

And at last we have some journalists pointing out what I believe to be a problem,

http://www.salemnews.com/opinion/x10111 ... -Armstrong

And even American lawMakers are questioning the USADA,

http://www.livingstondaily.com/usatoday ... Sports%7Cp

If he is guilty then please let us see this case carried out in a just and fair way, as from now the USADA are a badly run body and that review their own judgment....

Dog:

Lance Armstrong knew what the evidence against him was, and he chose not to defend himself. He has accepted the charges. He is guilty. There's nothing to discuss. If Lance Armstrong had wanted the evidence to be heard he would have contested it. He didn't. Instead he has tried to muddy the waters and claim the moral high ground. Don't fall for it.

Robches
"Lance Armstrong knew what the evidence against him was"

lol

I don't think he found it a laughing matter, that's why he bottled it. He tried every legal means to have the hearing halted, and when he failed, threw in the towel. Face it, he's guilty.

Robches, ARE YOU TROLLING ME?

here is something to read, it is a response from the UCI to USADA.

"Three respondents were banned for life because they didn?t respond or didn?t respond in time to USADA?s letter of accusation. USADA refused to provide UCI with evidence that these respondents received the letter of accusation in due time. In any case it is a matter of fact that these respondents didn?t receive the case file with the alleged evidence that USADA claims to exist against them. Nevertheless USADA claims that these respondents have accepted to be banned for life. Yet it seems that these respondents were banned for life for not having reacted to a letter of USADA. Furthermore the evidence that USADA claims to exist against the respondents was not reviewed by a neutral instance.

Likewise none of the other respondents have seen the evidence that USADA claims to have collected. Two of them are expected to file their defence by 15August 2012, yet still don?t know what is the evidence that USADA alleges to exist against them. It is amazing to see how USADA accuses the respondents of cover up whilst USADA refuses to reveal the evidence that it claims to exist."

Dog:

Don't be an idiot all your life. Lance Armstrong has the time and money to contest any charge he likes. The fact is he has folded, he can't defend himself against the charges against him. He's guilty, get over it.