Re: Why are Christians SO annoying?
Posted: Thu May 31, 2012 3:06 pm
How come on! Paragraphs, paragraphs, paragraphs!
[quote]And no Sam, I didn't initiate this conversation.[/quote]
No wonder you don't believe in evidence. The evidence is right there in front of your eyes, and I quote: "And Sam Slater, atheists don't go around trying to control what people think do they? Yeah right, you can't turn on the television these days without some smug bastard giving us the gospel according to Charles Darwin! Gimme a break...."
That right there is a question addressed to me. For future reference, if you don't like people disagreeing with you, or even conversing, I suggest you stop referring to them by name on threads there's a good chance they're following due to their participation. And definitely don't ask them questions.
[quote]The Anglicans and Catholics have given up on Christianity and turned to Darwinism?[/quote]
Yes. Officially. They just think God started it all off which is a sort of 'God of the gaps' strategy but they have no problem with Evolution by Natural Selection. Only the crackpot Christian creationists and fundamentalist Muslims have issues with it.....oh, and Scientologists I assume. Given we're all aliens. Good company you keep, Ken.
[quote]'Your proneness to obesity'? Are you serious? It's not enough that I'm a fool and a heretic in your eyes, but now I'm fat as well?[/quote]
Hahaha! You're cracking me up.
[quote]You say that you don't care what I believe and that I only believe in science when it suits me. Forgive me, but I don't see science as a thing that I, or anyone else for that matter has to stay faithful to or give some pledge of allegiance to. You think ALL scientific theories must be appreciated and believed in their entirety or none at all.[/quote]
Yes. All scientific theories should be believed in because to do otherwise is to go down the road of myths and make-believe. That is not to say every scientific theory turns out to be correct. But you are, at least, judging things on evidence and rigorous testing. It's why you car works, why we have computers and gps systems and why you've a better chance of surviving many illnesses and disorders now compared to even 50 years ago. It works. And please note I said 'theories' not 'hypotheses'.
[quote]'my evidence'. OK, for what it's worth, here it is. I don't like long posts but you asked for it....[/quote]
I read all you put. You didn't show me any evidence to counter Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection at all. All you seem to talk about is how cold and depressing it all is and how it makes you feel. We can't pick and choose what we believe in based on how cozy inside it makes us.
And so what if science is cold and calculating? It's supposed to be objective. It's about learning how things work, or what they are. Poetry is lovely; poetry is inspiring; poetry is something to live for. But has poetry ever given a three year old girl who's suffering from leukaemia a second chance to grow up and experience freshly cut grass......or how about to read some poetry of her own? Has poetry given a dad with a brain tumour just six extra weeks to live so he can give his daughter away for her wedding and be on all the photos so they can always have those moments to look back on? What about the 12 year old boy who can finally play football in the park with his mates after having his operation to stop his seizures? Science is cold and calculating, Ken, but my god it can be used in heart-warming, inspiring ways.....and it is everyday. Go write a poem about that.
And talking of poetry. Isn't a big part of that structure? *looks up at massive block of text*
[quote]And no Sam, I didn't initiate this conversation.[/quote]
No wonder you don't believe in evidence. The evidence is right there in front of your eyes, and I quote: "And Sam Slater, atheists don't go around trying to control what people think do they? Yeah right, you can't turn on the television these days without some smug bastard giving us the gospel according to Charles Darwin! Gimme a break...."
That right there is a question addressed to me. For future reference, if you don't like people disagreeing with you, or even conversing, I suggest you stop referring to them by name on threads there's a good chance they're following due to their participation. And definitely don't ask them questions.
[quote]The Anglicans and Catholics have given up on Christianity and turned to Darwinism?[/quote]
Yes. Officially. They just think God started it all off which is a sort of 'God of the gaps' strategy but they have no problem with Evolution by Natural Selection. Only the crackpot Christian creationists and fundamentalist Muslims have issues with it.....oh, and Scientologists I assume. Given we're all aliens. Good company you keep, Ken.
[quote]'Your proneness to obesity'? Are you serious? It's not enough that I'm a fool and a heretic in your eyes, but now I'm fat as well?[/quote]
Hahaha! You're cracking me up.
[quote]You say that you don't care what I believe and that I only believe in science when it suits me. Forgive me, but I don't see science as a thing that I, or anyone else for that matter has to stay faithful to or give some pledge of allegiance to. You think ALL scientific theories must be appreciated and believed in their entirety or none at all.[/quote]
Yes. All scientific theories should be believed in because to do otherwise is to go down the road of myths and make-believe. That is not to say every scientific theory turns out to be correct. But you are, at least, judging things on evidence and rigorous testing. It's why you car works, why we have computers and gps systems and why you've a better chance of surviving many illnesses and disorders now compared to even 50 years ago. It works. And please note I said 'theories' not 'hypotheses'.
[quote]'my evidence'. OK, for what it's worth, here it is. I don't like long posts but you asked for it....[/quote]
I read all you put. You didn't show me any evidence to counter Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection at all. All you seem to talk about is how cold and depressing it all is and how it makes you feel. We can't pick and choose what we believe in based on how cozy inside it makes us.
And so what if science is cold and calculating? It's supposed to be objective. It's about learning how things work, or what they are. Poetry is lovely; poetry is inspiring; poetry is something to live for. But has poetry ever given a three year old girl who's suffering from leukaemia a second chance to grow up and experience freshly cut grass......or how about to read some poetry of her own? Has poetry given a dad with a brain tumour just six extra weeks to live so he can give his daughter away for her wedding and be on all the photos so they can always have those moments to look back on? What about the 12 year old boy who can finally play football in the park with his mates after having his operation to stop his seizures? Science is cold and calculating, Ken, but my god it can be used in heart-warming, inspiring ways.....and it is everyday. Go write a poem about that.
And talking of poetry. Isn't a big part of that structure? *looks up at massive block of text*