Glitters come back

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Essex Lad
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Re: Meatus

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Meatus wrote:

> "im sure he has enough wealth and friends in high places"
>
> I've always wondered about this, i've read about him having
> loyal friends who protect him and help him out, including some
> that are very wealthy. What i wonder is, are these "friends"
> paedophiles? And do they belong to some sort of "Paedophile
> Network"? If not, what is their association with Glitter? I
> mean would they say, 'well we talk about football and politics
> and we have a drink and play cards. I know he's a paedophile
> but thats just something he does when i'm not around!' I mean i
> just can't imagine it, how can they be around him and spend
> time with him when they know what he does? Boggles my mind.

There is a paedophile media ring but it doesn't include Gary Glitter. It does include two ex-Radio 1 DJs, however. One has been sent down while the other has never been caught - and no, neither of the two I am referring to is Jonathan King.
tuf766
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Re: Glitters come back

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When Glitter sang "Do you wanna be in my gang" it must have been codeword for a paedo cult, seems most wealthy or famous folk are up to no good, thats why i mentioned his friends in high places. I know when he came back here after the farce in BKK airport and was released he was reported to have been staying at a wealthy friends house, money can buy a lot of things including silence, like the case in Belgium i think it was in the 90s (not Fritzl) where girls had been kept chained up in a secret room for a paedo ring what was rumoured to include some of the worlds politicians.

Regarding his appearance over christmas on the music shows yes i stand corrected JameW it was ch5, i must have had too much sherry trifle, but what about the royalty loss for his band? they must be pretty cheesed off that because of his conviction they are suffering loss of earnings now? or did they get a lump sum royalty fee compensation?
Meatus
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Re: Meatus

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"There is a paedophile media ring but it doesn't include Gary Glitter. It does include two ex-Radio 1 DJs, however. One has been sent down while the other has never been caught - and no, neither of the two I am referring to is Jonathan King."

I actually know who you are referring to. He was a famous Radio 1 DJ from the start of the station. And he was arrested, charged and convicted in the Czech Rebublic. If its the same guy i'm thinking of? I actually read about this in the News Of The World about this guy. And after he left Radio 1 he worked as a promoter and helped launch the careers of Gary Glitter (shock awe!) and the Bay City Rollers (who's manager is a well known dodgy character & paedophile and supposed member of a paedophile ring). Who was cleared on Child Abuse charges. A member of the band has also claimed that the manager sexually abused him over a number of years and another member of the group claimed the manager attempted to rape him on more than one occasion. Said former Bay City Roller manager was also said to be involved in the paedophile ring with Jonathan King, the ex-Radio One DJ and a well known Entertainment Television Presenter (who was cleared of child sex allegations). A member of the group the Bay City Rollers, their drummer Derek Longmuir was also found Guilty of Child Pornography Charges but escaped a jail sentance and was ordered to complete 300 Hours of Community Service after he plead Guilty.
Essex Lad
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Re: Meatus

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Meatus wrote:

> "There is a paedophile media ring but it doesn't include Gary
> Glitter. It does include two ex-Radio 1 DJs, however. One has
> been sent down while the other has never been caught - and no,
> neither of the two I am referring to is Jonathan King."
>
> I actually know who you are referring to. He was a famous Radio
> 1 DJ from the start of the station. And he was arrested,
> charged and convicted in the Czech Rebublic. If its the same
> guy i'm thinking of? I actually read about this in the News Of
> The World about this guy. And after he left Radio 1 he worked
> as a promoter and helped launch the careers of Gary Glitter
> (shock awe!) and the Bay City Rollers (who's manager is a well
> known dodgy character & paedophile and supposed member of a
> paedophile ring). Who was cleared on Child Abuse charges. A
> member of the band has also claimed that the manager sexually
> abused him over a number of years and another member of the
> group claimed the manager attempted to rape him on more than
> one occasion. Said former Bay City Roller manager was also said
> to be involved in the paedophile ring with Jonathan King, the
> ex-Radio One DJ and a well known Entertainment Television
> Presenter (who was cleared of child sex allegations). A member
> of the group the Bay City Rollers, their drummer Derek Longmuir
> was also found Guilty of Child Pornography Charges but escaped
> a jail sentance and was ordered to complete 300 Hours of
> Community Service after he plead Guilty.

Spot on. Yes we can name the convicted DJ as Chris Denning. The NoW story saying he helped the career of Gary Glitter is a bit of a red herring. He played his records as did Noel Edmonds, Mike Read, DLT etc etc - they also helped the careers of Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Telly Savalas (singing not Kojak) and the Osmonds. It could be said that Denning helped anyone who had a hit at that time.

The other Radio 1 DJ has never been charged or uncovered.

Derek Longmuir claimed that he took the blame for downloading kiddie porn on behalf of someone else - like you do...

Rollers manager Tam Paton was jailed for molesting boys as was Steve Jolley of the songwriting duo Swain and Jolley. Funny no one suggests banning songs by Bay City Rollers or Bananarama (which Jolley co-wrote).
Essex Lad
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Attn: Tuf766

Post by Essex Lad »

tuf766 wrote:

> When Glitter sang "Do you wanna be in my gang" it must have
> been codeword for a paedo cult,

It wasn't. He co-wrote the song or are you suggesting that the happily married co-writer Mike Leander was a paedophile too?

>
> Regarding his appearance over christmas on the music shows yes
> i stand corrected JameW it was ch5, i must have had too much
> sherry trifle, but what about the royalty loss for his band?
> they must be pretty cheesed off that because of his conviction
> they are suffering loss of earnings now? or did they get a lump
> sum royalty fee compensation?

They didn't and don't get anything for the simple reason that they never actually played on any of the records. The music was provided by Gary Glitter and Mike Leander. Having said that, if you go to see the Glitter Band in action, much of their set is made up of Gary Glitter songs.
Meatus
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Re: Glitters come back

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"like the case in Belgium i think it was in the 90s (not Fritzl) where girls had been kept chained up in a secret room for a paedo ring what was rumoured to include some of the worlds politicians."

Fritzl was in Austria not Belgium, but i know the case you are referring to. And i've i'm right i think both men and women were convicted in that case.

Also the Children's home in Jersey called Haut de la Garenne were there was allegedly years of physical, sexual and mental abuse and torture. I am correct in thinking that some human bones were found in the basement of the home a few years ago, though from there i believe the investigation was hindered by top Police Officers and Local Government. I seem to remember a story came out that it was actually a piece of wood that was found and not a human bone. Then i recall the officer in charge claimed that more bones had been found. From there i have gone cold on what happened as it hasn't seemed to be mentioned much since. Though i understand the police officer in charge wasn't well liked. Though he claimed his investigation was blocked and impended. If anyone else knows more about this or can correct faults i have made please do. Though from gleaming of what i know of the case it seems that even if there were no bodies found. There was widespread child abuse happening at the children's home and it seemed the authorities knew, were perhaps involved to an extent and helped to cover it up. There is definitely something dodgy about this story.
Essex Lad
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Re: Glitters come back

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Now then now then - another Radio 1 DJ was involved there - they do get around!
Meatus
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Re: Meatus

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"Spot on. Yes we can name the convicted DJ as Chris Denning. The NoW story saying he helped the career of Gary Glitter is a bit of a red herring. He played his records as did Noel Edmonds, Mike Read, DLT etc etc - they also helped the careers of Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Telly Savalas (singing not Kojak) and the Osmonds. It could be said that Denning helped anyone who had a hit at that time."

I guess you are right about this, though i thought they were alluding to he actually worked as a promoter rather than promoting their songs on the radio. Though i might have got that wrong.


"Derek Longmuir claimed that he took the blame for downloading kiddie porn on behalf of someone else - like you do..."

I remember this too, and he claimed that for a while. Though i thought after he plead Guilty he said that it was his porn?

"Rollers manager Tam Paton was jailed for molesting boys as was Steve Jolley of the songwriting duo Swain and Jolley. Funny no one suggests banning songs by Bay City Rollers or Bananarama (which Jolley co-wrote)."

Quite right in regards to the banning of the songs. Paton was a rather unsavoury character. There was always numerous stories about him and many pertaining to alleged child abuse offences, paedophilia, child porn and been part of a paedophile ring. Though i know he was charged with child abuse offences i always thought he was found Not Guilty. Though i know he was found Guilty on drug charges and selling drugs.

"The other Radio 1 DJ has never been charged or uncovered."

I genuinely do not have any idea who you are referring to here. And the fact you say he has never been charged or uncovered means you obviously can't reveal who he is.
Meatus
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Re: Glitters come back

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A-ha! I now know who you are referring to and if he is the same Radio 1 DJ as alluded to before who was never uncovered or charged then i know who you mean ;)
Essex Lad
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Re: Meatus

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Meatus wrote:

> "Spot on. Yes we can name the convicted DJ as Chris Denning.
> The NoW story saying he helped the career of Gary Glitter is a
> bit of a red herring. He played his records as did Noel
> Edmonds, Mike Read, DLT etc etc - they also helped the careers
> of Marc Bolan, David Bowie, Telly Savalas (singing not Kojak)
> and the Osmonds. It could be said that Denning helped anyone
> who had a hit at that time."
>
> I guess you are right about this, though i thought they were
> alluding to he actually worked as a promoter rather than
> promoting their songs on the radio. Though i might have got
> that wrong.

Gary Glitter had the same promoter and later manager throughout most of his career Jef Hanlon.
>
>
> "Derek Longmuir claimed that he took the blame for downloading
> kiddie porn on behalf of someone else - like you do..."
>
> I remember this too, and he claimed that for a while. Though i
> thought after he plead Guilty he said that it was his porn?

Longmuir claimed he pleaded guilty in hope of avoiding a "media circus". In an interview in the Sunday Herald on 7 May 2000, Longmuir's foster son, Jorge Loureiro, claimed that Longmuir was innocent, and had been framed by an obsessed American fan he had befriended, with discs having been sent to his home anonymously days before he was arrested. Can you imagine? How unlucky was he??? Salt, pinch, large...some expression like that comes to mind.


>
> "Rollers manager Tam Paton was jailed for molesting boys as was
> Steve Jolley of the songwriting duo Swain and Jolley. Funny no
> one suggests banning songs by Bay City Rollers or Bananarama
> (which Jolley co-wrote)."
>
> Quite right in regards to the banning of the songs. Paton was a
> rather unsavoury character. There was always numerous stories
> about him and many pertaining to alleged child abuse offences,
> paedophilia, child porn and been part of a paedophile ring.
> Though i know he was charged with child abuse offences i always
> thought he was found Not Guilty. Though i know he was found
> Guilty on drug charges and selling drugs.

In 1982, Paton was convicted of gross indecency with teenage boys, serving one year of a three year prison sentence. He was later charged with child sex offences and as you rightly say cleared.

>
> "The other Radio 1 DJ has never been charged or uncovered."
>
> I genuinely do not have any idea who you are referring to here.
> And the fact you say he has never been charged or uncovered
> means you obviously can't reveal who he is.

No, and I won't name him here because a) I don't want to get the site closed down or b) get sued.
But it is someone you'd never guess in a million years. He's still alive and still working.
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