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Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:37 am
by videokim
You can have your views but no responsible adult leaves their children alone, yes parents of challenged backgrounds are known to do this quite often & are slatted quite rightly by the public for for doing so.
The Portuguese police still have not 100% ruled them out & case will remain open until further evidence comes to light, as i said they did pay the ultimate price & i grieve for them but because of their stupid irresponsible actions in a foreign country they were equally to blame for their daughters disappearance & were lucky not to have lost the other child as well.
Where were their brains to leave the kids alone ? are you guys parents & if you are would you leave your young kids alone in a strange place?...it will be interesting to hear your answer on this one.
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 12:12 pm
by David Johnson
"The Portuguese police still have not 100% ruled them out & case will remain open until further evidence comes to light,"
Unlike you apparently, I believe in the concept of innocent until proven guilty. Biggs was found guilty. Got that? The McCanns have not been found guilty of anything. Got that?
"they were equally to blame for their daughters disappearance"
This is nonsense. Like saying as I did in my previous message that a girl in a short skirt is "equally to blame" for their rape.
"Where were their brains to leave the kids alone ? are you guys parents & if you are would you leave your young kids alone in a strange place?...it will be interesting to hear your answer on this one."
They were asleep 120 metres away and had someone checking on them every 20 minutes. It was hardly leaving them in the house and going into town to get pissed!
I repeat many, many parents might leave their children for 20 minutes and nip next door for a quick chat or leave their kid in the car while they pop into a shop. Parents make these decisions all the time. Like letting their kid out to play with another kid in the park etc etc. Do they always think Oh I can't do that, they might get abducted? No they make a value judgement on the risk and act accordingly.
I am not saying this is always right and obviously the McCanns made a terrible mistake, but what I am saying is that it isn't an excuse for ill-informed claptrap like yours stating that the McCanns were "equally to blame" as the abductor for what happened to their child.
Cheers
D
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:02 pm
by bernard72
1) Any money the McCanns are making as you so wisely put it, is being put into the fund to help find Maddie. Detectives are still seraching.
2) Yes the McCanns left their children alone whilst eating some 120 yards away, checking up on them every 20 minutes. But please tell if you think that had they been in the apartment the abduction may not have happened.
Please refer to
It is sad to say but horrible crime happens. I cannot imagine how the McCanns feel, how the twins feel but the person I feel most for is young Maddie. I hope she is still alive and I hope she is found and reunited with her parents and siblings.
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:49 pm
by Lizard
Well put Bernard.
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:01 pm
by videokim
Like i said...are you a parent? and if you are would you leave your kids (120m or 365ft...a street away not next door you dick) and go out with friends, if your answer is yes mate then join the ranks of the low life that also do this. Reading between the lines it seems you dont have kids so cannot really comment on how or why a parent would feel anger towards the McCanns in that they made it so easy for the abducter to take the child. Its fine thinking they are innocent in this affair but not everyone as your same warped views.
John using Kims addy.....
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:44 pm
by Sam Slater
I don't think anyone on this thread has said, or implied, the McCanns are innocent. We just realise that people make bad judgement calls and bad things happen.
Constantly slagging off the McCanns will not bring their daughter back and they will have suffered enough already (and will continue to do so).
Oh, and bgafd accounts are free. You don't have to keep using your other half's.
Re: John
Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:46 pm
by BeestonBoy
videokim wrote:
> Like i said...are you a parent? and if you are would you leave
> your kids (120m or 365ft...a street away not next door you
> dick) and go out with friends, if your answer is yes mate then
> join the ranks of the low life that also do this.
> Reading between the lines it seems you dont have kids so
> cannot really comment on how or why a parent would feel anger
> towards the McCanns in that they made it so easy for the
> abducter to take the child. Its fine thinking they are innocent
> in this affair but not everyone as your same warped views.
>
>
> John using Kims
> addy.....
>
>
Just curious,do you prefer to polish or oil your pitch fork?
Bernard
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:02 am
by David Johnson
You make a very good point, Bernard. A child can be abducted in a few seconds. And I doubt if there is any parent who could say that they have never let their young child out of their sight for awhile e.g. playing with a family pet in the garden whilst cooking dinner etc etc.
There have been stories of kids who have been abducted and then re-emerge many years later. I can only hope that this can happen to Maddie.
Cheers
D
John
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:13 am
by David Johnson
"Its fine thinking they are innocent in this affair but not everyone as your same warped views."
You are totally confused yet again.
I believe someone is innocent of a crime i.e. abducting a child, until proven guilty. Is that so difficult for you to understand? Is it a warped view to believe someone is innocent until proven guilty of a crime?
Secondly I have already said the McCanns clearly made a bad mistake in leaving their kids for 20 minute slots as they did. And they have paid the price for that error of judgement ever since.
But obviously not everyone can be as totally perfect as you and your partner.
Given your daft comments about Ronnie Biggs earlier in the thread and how the McCanns were equally culpable for the abduction of Maddy as the abductor, I suggest you use an online dictionary to work out the meaning of the following.
1. A criminal.
2. A victim.
3. Innocent of a crime.
4. Guilty of a crime.
5. Pity.
Re: The McCanns
Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 9:30 am
by BeestonBoy
Hey
Fuck it.....might as well toss me hat in the ring. Every sod else seems to have an opinion.
The way I see it is,my parents are wonderful,fantastic people and have been bloody amazing to me but have they been perfect? Of course not. Did they take chances,make bad decisions when I was a child that almost certainly but me in danger? Of course they did. I'm talking about all the things that every parent does. Driving to fast with the child in the car or taking thier eyes off the child for a few seconds in town and the other hundred million things that can happen. The simple fact is,my parents and 99.9% of parents just got lucky. It really is that simple.
Now don't get me wrong,what the McCann's did was stupid but it is a guilt they will live with for the rest of thier lives,the same as the parent who crashes the car driving too fast. What really seems pointless to me is the public witch hunt that still ensues from this case. Given that what seems like every other week,children die in house fires in this country. In houses that the parents have been to fucking stupid to fit a five pound smoke alarm and no cunt says a fucking word. Christ it isn't even law to have a bloody smoke alarm.
Also I am guessing I am unique on this Forum in having actually met Kate McCann on several occasions (all be it before the event in question) and have to say that she does come across as a slightly strange Woman but this case was never meant to be a personality contest. It was meant to be about finding a child. I also always wonder how any of us would look once placed in the Media spot light. It so easy to become Judge,Jury and Executioner. Christopher Jefferies,any one?
Oh and any one who ever tries to make this a 'class issue' is with out doubt an utter utter CUNT!! How could some one living in a Brixton Tower block possibly had worse press than alot of the things printed about the McCann's? Fucks sake.
Cheers
BB