15 year old stabbed to death by crazed mob!

[David Johnson]

To help you down from your high horse, first you need to understand the context of my remark.

If you do a search on Davey's posts you will find that just about every single one that discusses race, violent crime, dole scroungers, immigration etc mentions black and Asian people, particularly immigrants extremely unfavourably compared to the "indigineous" population, whatever that is.

One of Davey's posts about the horrors of interracial sex had to be deleted by the BGAFD admin. And it takes something to get a post deleted on this forum, believe me!

So what I tend to do in my posts to young Davey is balance his neverending anti black/Asian rhetoric.

I hope you understand the above, because it is important. With the context explained I will address your post.

"Ah, yet more David Johnson sarcasm..."
Correct.

"To ignore the cultural significance of this specific murder is ignoring the issue that continues to grow"

Obviously.. though the extent to which this is growing compared to teenage knife crime in general, I dont know. You have statistics?

"Africans, Arabs, Blacks"...
"To simply acknowledge that there are growing problems with knife crime in a minority of London's young ethnic community is racist, right?"

No. Wrong. Is that what you think? I have never suggested that in any of my posts. There are black gangs and black on black violent attacks. There are white gangs and white on white violent attacks. There are white and black gangs etc. etc. Efforts need to be made to deal with this. If you can find a quote from me that states differently please share it.

"The stop-and-search law that permitted a police officer to act on suspicion of carrying weapons were scrapped because they were said to be a form of racial harassment by people like you"

No. I have never been against stop and search laws provided there was reasonable suspicion. As far as I can recall my only criticism against stop and search was in the context of PCSOs in particular, stopping, searching and in some cases arresting photographers (of all colours before you get on that high horse again). If you can find a quote from me that states differently please share it.

"People like you who are in denial help to form the ultimate consequence which is that young men of ethnicity are left unprotected in unpoliced neighbourhoods, and that many mothers are left to grieve for their children"

No I am not in denial. Violent crime is a grave problem and irrespective of ethnicity needs dealing with, particularly in very poor, deprived areas where the problem tends to be worse. If you can find a quote from me that states differently please share it.

"When a child has been stabbed, having the police combing the scene for forensic evidence after the event offers little consolation."

Err, it's a bit difficult to disagree with this one.

What the grieving mothers need is effective, realistic policing that will prevents this type of murder. Not denial and not sarcasm.

I am not against effective, realistic policing that will prevent this type of gangland murder, irrespective of colour. If you can find a quote from me that states differently please share it.

Please understand there is a difference between countering an endless stream of anti Asian/Black abuse and stating that everything is absolutely fine with a particular race.

Nice speech, unfortunately it seems to be based on nothing to do with anything I have stated in the past.

Have a good evening
David

[Jonesy]

Great anecdotes Jim, wish I'd been there

[Sarah Kelly]

Come on,come on, come on, come on, come on ................ and then,with one punch , he is shown up to be the twat he is ... I abhore violence (Tho wasnt "Contender" good!) but this just feels SO right !thumbsup!

[Jonesy]

The best bit is the shaven headed chav mate who politely closes the gate after his thug mate is staggering across the road as if to say 'we don't want no trouble, pal'

[Lizard]

!thumbsup!

[Lizard]

Oh fuck it! make it a round 50..

[mrmcfister]

Hi Jim
Brill!

[belfast_birty]

Most of this mayhem seems to be in the larger cities,both here and abroad.Young first and second generation immigrants seem to think that disputes are sorted by the use of (any) weapon.Back home,that may be the way-but not here.Families seem to have little control over their 'darling young.'

If you value the lives of your children,you have to move outside the big metropolitan centres.I did that years ago,and have never regretted it.

[frankthring]

People get confused, wound up and misunderstand the difference between
justice and punishment......Justice in the form of the Courts exist and I have
no doubt the police will act, statements weighed against the video recordings
of the incident and probably the worst of the gang charged with murder....then
its a Court matter and a question of whether the punishment fits the crime....
I do not think para military security units, with draconian powers, driving round
British streets is helpful or necessary.....what needs to be tightened up is the
punishment system....others are entitled to disagree with me or hold more liberal views but, speaking personally, I would insist on a full jury (not majority)
verdicts and, if found guilty, the return of the death penalty for 1st degree murder. Society today has gone soft ! Sorry folks but its a fact. And if they are
too young then a minimum 30 years sentence or transportation to some God-forsaken place like Australia !*
* Twice I have had the misfortune to try and take models and shoot porn in
Australia. Anyone who has ever encountered Australian Customs and Immigration knows the place is godforsaken !

[Guilbert]

>Too right Davey, crime in this country was non-existent until the fuzzy wuzzies turned up.

Why do people always drag out this old cliche (not that you can have new cliches).

Of course we had crime, we have always had crime, always will have crime.

But that still does not alter the fact that the PERCENTAGE of immigrants who commit crime is greater than the indiginous population who commit crime.

Sometimes I watch Crimewatch on TV, and it seems to me it is put together by the BNP, as there seems to be such a high percetage of crimes by Black/Asian/Chinese.

My guess is the producers try to be "fair" by showing crimes by all colours, races, both sexes etc, but there is no doubt the number of crimes on there committed by immigrants is far higher than there should be by percentage of immigrants in the population.

Look here at the Crimewatch site "most wanted". They do 8 people per show.

If you look at each dated entry you see that normally over half (more than 4) are non-white/English, often 5 or 6 of the 8 are non-white.

Look at 28th October 2009 and 7 of the 8 are non white/English (the other has been removed, probably caught).

You cant argue with that (or is Crimewatch being racist as well)



Immigrants ARE responsible for more crime than their numbers indicate, and I am afraid you cant argue with that.

(I use the word immigrants above to represent obvious non-white English, even if maybe they were born in Egland and are the children of original immigrants)