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The comments made by the BNP on those leaflets are the public face they show, the lighter side of their Policies, scratch the surface and find the real depth of hatred. In those two cases they highlighted issues that people where being told about in the media. Asylum Seekers and radical muslims, and yes these are real issues. But what worries me is that these issues are a cover for a deeper hatred of anyone that is deemed None white or None British. Its like reading fine print and finding out what they offered is not entrirly accurate. These guys are living in the past, they dont want a multi culteral society, if it was up to the BNP we would be living in the Dennis Wheatley era. Many people have met and been to BNP rallies and speeches and have come back worried about what they have heard. The BNP canvas votes from the lowest common denominator from society.

aspen, I agree with you that the views of a lot of BNP members are vile, but I really believe that if you bugged a dinner being held at the Belgravia flat of some up and coming Conservatives, or did a similar thing to a get-together of aspiring Labour activisits, you would hear the same sort of vile views. The reason is is because huge swathes of the population think along those lines - I dont condone it, I condemn it - but that is how enourmous numbers of people think. They just only say it behind closed doors.

I still dont understand how the BNP can exist and can stand candidates, and yet some people aren't allowed to support them and most people from other areas of society would have their lives permanently ruined if it ever became public knowledge that they did. It's like having a shop that can legally exist, register itself, legally take money for goods it sells, it pays tax, etc - yet it is not legal for many citizens to shop there and it is a life-ruining offence for anyone else to shop there. How bizzare would that be?

There is a real difference. Many other political parties might hold the same views on some issues that the BNP claim to believe in, but most other parties dont have 100s of thugs waiting for a nod to go down and start to kick up some racial tension. Cant see some fat Torie at the end of his parties confrence going out with his right Honourable gentleman friends and kick the shit out of some non whites. I agree that some of the issues raised by the BNP do need addressing. But claiming to want to ban hate speeches by radical Muslims cannot be met with equally damaging hate speeches by the BNP. Why the BNP are tollorated I cant say, we need diversity in Politics otherwise we get stagnent. Good or bad they are here and we have to choose.

isnt it a fact that in Epping they have a jewish councillor,in Dagenham a turkish one and in Birmingham didnt they have a sikh and a half-caste candidate?that sounds very multicultural to me.i am intrigued about the BNP being allowed to operate in this country if they really are hate filled nazis and have had a look on their website.nowhere did i see any language encouraging people to hate gays or members of ethnic minorities.people say that is just their public face but deep down they mean different but how does anyone know?look at the way new labour has lied and decieved since they took power and look at all the labour and tory politicians who have criminal records some very serious including rape and attempted murder.in a democracy if you can have all these groups solely dedicated to the advancement of purely blacks or Asians is it really so bad to have a party that wishes to look out for the interests of whites?going by the governments own figures whites will be a minority in this country within the next century.it would seem some of the opponents of the BNP are very violent hate filled people themselves.wasnt Searchlight magazine linked with Redaction a notoriously violent group liked to the IRA supporting troops out movement (which raised money for Republicans to buy weapons and explosives to kill and maim British troops and innocent civillians) responsible for stabbings and petrol bombings of supporters of the BNP including women in the 80's?there is no place in a tolerant civilized democracy for people who call for members of a political party which they happen to disagree with to be publicly named and have violence carried out against them

Davey, some very good points there, I agree with everything you say. Like I said in my earlier comments the vilification of the BNP by the other parties is largely a political thing. The rise of the BNP, and their enourmous increase in supporters, in recent years can be put down to terrible failings by the main 3 parties to care about the interests of the indigeonous population.