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Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 5:46 pm
by clare40dd
why the f**ck post this?


Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 6:15 pm
by Lizard
Clare. There is only 1* in f*ck.....or, you can just say 'fuck' !grin!


Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 6:12 am
by JB
Alice In Blunderland wrote:

> What is this from his post then if not condoning it?
>
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> 'In my own opinion those who download, or view child
> pornography should not be charged with any offence unless they
> have paid a fee'

I'm not defending or supporting his position - but he's stating his belief that if downloaders don't create a financial incentive for producers, then downloading is not contributing to the abuse of children.

In practise that's utopian bollocks. If the material exists and there's a demand for it, someone will sell it and create a market. The availability of the content may also lead people who see it to abuse children (though I'd leave that for the psychologists to debate).


Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 7:43 am
by BGAFD Admin
Thank you for this post. Essentially, your post summarises all the reasons we decided to allow Mike's post to stay.

If people such as Alice don't like that or disagree with the way we run and moderate the forum, then nobody here is forcing them to stay.


Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:30 am
by BGAFD Admin
Silly us, we must have completely missed the Act of Parliament that made advocating a change to the law an illegal act. Oh, hang on,there hasn't been one.

Again, JB nicely sums up our feelings on this when he says "I'm not defending or supporting his position - but he's stating his belief that if downloaders don't create a financial incentive for producers, then downloading is not contributing to the abuse of children.".

(For the record, I personally also agree with JB's refuting of that argument.)

Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:38 am
by harmonyluvver
Just for the record, I haven't debated the "child porn" issue for one reason. I found the assertion so ludicrous that I didn't want to waste time going over what had been said extremely well by other members. However the atmosphere around here is getting a bit tense so I thought I ought to say something. ANY porn which features someone who was manipulated, forced or tricked into doing something they did not want to do or fully understand, whether filmed, photographed or otherwise captured is wrong paid for or not.
We need better definitions where the law is concerned as the obscene publications act is a complete joke. There are grey areas such as if two 16 year olds film themselves doing "the nasty" should they be prosecuted? It is also an intersting point that Sam Fox was the youngest ever page 3 girl at 16.

Re: Why "sex crimes" should be abolished

Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 8:44 am
by harmonyluvver
Need an edit lol.

If you still have a copy of the sun from when Sam fox did her first shoot you are now considered in the eyes of the law as having an indecent and illegal image. If you happen to have downloaded any images of her first two years modelling you could be in serious poo, considered to be an abuser, and placed on a register.