Warren........answer me one question with as much insight as you can, and quash my fears.
If heroin -for instance- was legalised along with most other illegal substances, then the black market would be virtually wiped out, correct?
Will these people -who we've put out of business- give up and get proper jobs, or do you think there's a slight possibility that they will create more addictive, powerful and dangerous drugs which will give a 'better high' than the drugs you get from the local chemist?
There will then be a new line of illegal drugs that were more destructive than the illegal drugs of today.
Legalised = boring. Illegal = cool.
Youths will always want to be cool, regardless of the dangers, and the black market WILL create something to replace the illegal substances they sell today.
Should heroin be given on the NHS?
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
Giving addicts this kind of "treatment" is a fucking joke when the NHS refuse hundreds of cancer sufferers the treatment they need. After all you have a choice whether or not to stick a needle in your arm or a take a blow of the pipe.
No one became an addict by accident EVERYONE knows how bad herione is and it takes more than one shot to become an addict. Cancer sufferers don't have a choice but a junkie does from the moment they were offered their first hit.
I only sympathise with the families junkies destroy, and the people they hurt. As far as the tax payer feeding their habit? Well that disgusts me there is already help out there for them and if they choose not to take it let them rot.
No one became an addict by accident EVERYONE knows how bad herione is and it takes more than one shot to become an addict. Cancer sufferers don't have a choice but a junkie does from the moment they were offered their first hit.
I only sympathise with the families junkies destroy, and the people they hurt. As far as the tax payer feeding their habit? Well that disgusts me there is already help out there for them and if they choose not to take it let them rot.
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
Hell Kitten wrote:
> Also, if heroin was prescribed by Doctors and GP's, users would
> have access to clean needles and so on, which would hugely
> reduce the spread of AIDS and HIV.
Rubbish, clean needles are already given out freely at the needle exchange. If they were that bothered about sharing they could just pop down and get them.
eroticartist wrote:
> The answer : legalise all recreational substances and educate he public > as to each specific substance's deleterious effect.
They have been doing this in schools, colleges and universities for years and make zero difference.
They STILL make the choice to take these drugs or not and the help IS there for them but they choose not to take it.
> Also, if heroin was prescribed by Doctors and GP's, users would
> have access to clean needles and so on, which would hugely
> reduce the spread of AIDS and HIV.
Rubbish, clean needles are already given out freely at the needle exchange. If they were that bothered about sharing they could just pop down and get them.
eroticartist wrote:
> The answer : legalise all recreational substances and educate he public > as to each specific substance's deleterious effect.
They have been doing this in schools, colleges and universities for years and make zero difference.
They STILL make the choice to take these drugs or not and the help IS there for them but they choose not to take it.
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
Richard Condon (The Manchurian Candidate) wrote Mile High in which the main character gets prohibition enacted so as to make a fortune from bootlegging liquor.
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
[quote]The last new popular new drugs (MDMA and the crack form of cocaine) both were innovated/popularised in our existing drugs culture. So keeping things as they are is no guarantee that new drugs wil not be invented.[/quote]
There's no guarantee legalisation would lessen the problems we face presently, either. Stopping drugs entering the country -or at least stemming the tide- is what I want to see.
I admit that dealers can concoct their own chemicals already, but they seem more interested in protecting their turf, hiding from the law, and making money to think hard about new drugs. Legalisation would put them out of business and they'd spend all their energy thinking up some 'wonder drug' that would be much worse than heroin is today. (In my opinion.)
At the end of the day, I just hope that when I have my own family, I'd rather my 18 year old daughter kiss me on the cheek to say 'see you later dad!' as she goes out with her friends for a few drinks, rather than 'just popping to the chemist for some smack, so I can shoot-up later dad!.......all perfectly legally.
I can't see any parents disagreeing with me here.
There's no guarantee legalisation would lessen the problems we face presently, either. Stopping drugs entering the country -or at least stemming the tide- is what I want to see.
I admit that dealers can concoct their own chemicals already, but they seem more interested in protecting their turf, hiding from the law, and making money to think hard about new drugs. Legalisation would put them out of business and they'd spend all their energy thinking up some 'wonder drug' that would be much worse than heroin is today. (In my opinion.)
At the end of the day, I just hope that when I have my own family, I'd rather my 18 year old daughter kiss me on the cheek to say 'see you later dad!' as she goes out with her friends for a few drinks, rather than 'just popping to the chemist for some smack, so I can shoot-up later dad!.......all perfectly legally.
I can't see any parents disagreeing with me here.
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
It will be more intresting to see where you stand once crystal meth starts hitting the country (a couple of years top) and see what a reception you get to to your drugs dont hurt anyone argument.
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Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
Mike-L wrote:
> I only sympathise with the families junkies destroy, and the
> people they hurt. As far as the tax payer feeding their habit?
> Well that disgusts me there is already help out there for them
> and if they choose not to take it let them rot.
Frankly, I do not give a hoot about junkies either, but I see this matter more strategically: (i) if the junkies get their "free hit" from the NHS then they do not need to turn to crime to feed their habit; (ii) moreover, that would kill the black market, by destroying its prices; this should (iii) mean that fewer people would get hooked in the first place, because it's the junkies that get the free hits, not the curious idiots - and the curious idiots would not have a place to buy the stuff from. Altogether, the expected lowering in crime would easily pay for the extra costs to the NHS, I am sure.
There is another problem though: it is difficult to do this as a country on your own, because if you do, you would get swamped with junkies from all over the place, and these are really the last people you want to attract. But I could imagine that as an EU-wide measure.
> I only sympathise with the families junkies destroy, and the
> people they hurt. As far as the tax payer feeding their habit?
> Well that disgusts me there is already help out there for them
> and if they choose not to take it let them rot.
Frankly, I do not give a hoot about junkies either, but I see this matter more strategically: (i) if the junkies get their "free hit" from the NHS then they do not need to turn to crime to feed their habit; (ii) moreover, that would kill the black market, by destroying its prices; this should (iii) mean that fewer people would get hooked in the first place, because it's the junkies that get the free hits, not the curious idiots - and the curious idiots would not have a place to buy the stuff from. Altogether, the expected lowering in crime would easily pay for the extra costs to the NHS, I am sure.
There is another problem though: it is difficult to do this as a country on your own, because if you do, you would get swamped with junkies from all over the place, and these are really the last people you want to attract. But I could imagine that as an EU-wide measure.
Re: Should heroin be given on the NHS?
the only way this could EVER be cobnsidered is that the scum sign a waver not allowing them to use any of the states resources (welfare state etc..) then taken to their little barren island and left to hopefully drop dead from overdosing on all those free drugs.