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Quite a paradox that anyone who questions the peaceful nature of Islam is met by a torrent of violence.

Ratzinger joined the Hitler Youth in 1941 at the age of 14. Membership was mandatory. Like you Keith, I share concerns about some of his right wing tendancies but I really cannot see his former membership of the Hitler Youth as a problem. He had no choice in the matter.

Very sensible comments, Mart.

In the early 1980s the CIA and several other western intelligence agenices complied research on the next big threat to World Peace. Communism was on its way out, facism never got a look in and China was more interested in trade than war. An Islamic state with a nuclear arsenal was the worst case scenario as many Muslims don't bother about dying as Allah will look after them. They forecast a Muslim state would even consider using a nuke inside its own borders if the need arose. Worrying and unfortunately coming true. Especially with the cult of armageddon nutters who vote Republican and keep Bush in power. These people are gunning for a mega shootout with the Muslims, as long as it happens 5000 miles from the US mainland of course! Personally if Iran gets too mighty I think India will be the ones to haul them into line, their economy is booming and don't want shit happening almost next door. They also have the Worlds largest professional army.........

In his latest statement the faux-pas-prone Il Papa seems to have angered a few Jews too. I'm there will be riots, burning effigies and fire-bombings from angry young Jewish men very soon.

Oh wait.......No there won?t.

So the pope was a former member of the Hitler youth was he? Well I can allow the exhuberances of youth whether he had a choice in the matter or not but I subscribe to the belief that a lot of people can change their minds and their ways over a period of time and not hold it against him.

I wont cast any aspersions on his character than to say he was way out of line saying what he said and can forgive him on the basis that the best humans of our species can be prone to fucking up from time to time.

He just made a boo-boo is all and he couldnt have done it at a better time. Oh well, he did the good christian thing and apologised anyway.

He wasn't in the least bit 'out of line'.

If one were to give a lecture on World War Two, for example, might it not be reasonable, in that context, to be able to quote from Mein Kampf or a Hitler speech without fear of accusations of anti-Semitism?.

I for one am sick and tired of everone pussyfooting around whenever Islam is mentioned. If you say anything against it, you are immediately labelled a rascist and we are forever hearing about the Muslim community etc as if it is expected that a Muslim is separate from the rest of the community because he chooses to because of his religion but must still be treated the same as everyone else.
Islam is a violent religion, fatwahs are sanctioned by chuch leaders against anyone who speaks out against them or even tries to discuss Islam (see Salman Rushdie) It seems to be on a par with Catholicism in the 14th century and needs to catch up with the rest of the world.
Outside the Finsbury Mosque, Captain Hook was allowed to spout hatred surrounded by his masked minders until he was arrested so he wouldn't have to be extradited to the US, Red Ken invites any tinpot zealot over here to slag us off while he sits there nodding sagely and every time an Asian is stopped and searched we hear screams of rascism.
Get a grip, in this country we allow anyone the right to follow whatever religion they want, we don't expect to have our laws changed however to suit minority religions, let them all live under the same laws as the rest of us and if they don't want to, they can go elsewhere.

Hello guys
Moslims:
If the arab countries didnt had the oil - what did they have to offer the rest of the world ??
TERRORISM - NOTHING ELSE !
Islam - is not a tolerant religion at all - they are not interested to live "in peace with others in the western world" - as many politicians - tell them selfs and our populations over and over again - wishfull thinking "
Moslims are coming to take over- they hate us and our way to live..
so it is
lets pray to western world -wil wake up soon .. its begging to be a bit late..
anyway
Thanks for the nice support England !"!!
Norlander
DENMARK