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Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 10:57 pm
by jj
The raw materials aspect made sense- but the simultaneous fighting of two fronts was bitterly contested by all his more competent generals at the time.
As you say, Hitler was losing the plot by this time.......

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:08 pm
by mart
And the USSR didn't declare war with Japan until days before the Japanese surrender.

Mart


Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:21 pm
by Pervert
Murphy became an actor because of his war record. Stewart, Heston, Niven and others jeopardised their careers to do what they thought was right. And Wayne fought the good fight in sunny CA.

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:22 pm
by Pervert
No argument from me on that score.

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 11:29 pm
by jj
True: but I was merely adding him to the list.
Good point about the career-damage issue, though.

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 6:04 am
by DavidS
"In Italy for thirty years under the Borgias they had warfare, terror, murder , bloodshed - they produced Michelangelo, Leonardo da Vinci and the Renaissance. In Switzerland they had brotherly love, five hundered years of democracy and peace, and what did they produce...? The cuckoo clock." Orson Welles

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 1:49 pm
by jj
Point taken- but mankind's inherent urge to violence is a primitivism that has outgrown it's usefulness. I'm sure a species can be creative without being simultaneously self-destructive. As Arthur C Clarke says, it's the next great evolutionary quantum-leap.
Sublimate, dear boy: sublimate.

Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:40 pm
by mart
Nice quote but the cuckoo clock originates from the Black Forest in Germany.

Mart


Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 3:53 pm
by Bob Singleton
mart wrote:

> Nice quote but the cuckoo clock originates from the Black
> Forest in Germany.
>
> Mart
>


And while Orson Welles may have spoken the words.... they were written by Graham Greene!


Re: US entry into World War II

Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 4:01 pm
by jj
Do the RSPB know about this?
I mean, issa bit cruel, innit, locking up poor little birdies forever inside of clocks...........bloody Swiss.
Hope their Army Knives rust and their Navy runs aground.