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Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 7:43 pm
by Pianaman
also well said krystellie. That's what made me angry too.

Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:08 pm
by thedriver
talk about double standards.......

You are going crazy about some guys fantasy, which as he says will always be his fantasy. He knows that rape as an act is utterly wrong, but buy watching a mock depicatation of the act he gets off on it.

your going crazy about his standards, but then you post a comment like this:




At a series of photos.

Yes we all know that the earlier photos the lady is dressed as young teen in a school like uniform, with her little pop socks. And you post "holy shit!".

Are you into young girls? I suspecy not its your fantasy and as a responsible adult it will remain a fantasy.

I know I will probably be slammed for sayin this, but it just gets my goat when there are double standards thats all.

And for the record I am not into rape vids.

Just had to voice an opinion


Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:17 pm
by Pianaman
Oh come off it thats not double standards at all - I know Vicky is an adult and I didnt even notice the bloody pop socks - its her I fancy - a sexy woman, not the fact she's dressed a certain way. In fact in other posts I have made it clear I deplore sites that deliberately try to make out that girls are under age and cater for people that fancy kids - but this is not an example of that at all. Nothing wrong with healthy fantasy - including dress up games if that floats your boat (not mine that much actually) - I agree entirely. But fantasising about rape is entirely different. Its like getting off on the fact that some woman is being tortured, humiliated, abused, or even murdered. That is sick.

Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:23 pm
by thedriver
"If anything I think it's more of a problem that this sort of material is used as ammunition by the "moral" right wing and PC brigades as a means of calling for bans on all sexual freedom of expression."

Again refer to the earlier post......where do you draw the line.


Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Tue Mar 30, 2004 8:34 pm
by Pianaman
This has come up a number of times. For example:



I'm not saying it's always easy to draw lines but in the case of rape fantasy and that sort of material I agree with Marcus and ohers that the lines are clear enough. I think the point is if we want to continue to have the right to freedom of sexual expression - something I really belive in - the we need to accept that with freedom comes certain responsibilities. We are adults - we have a right to sexuality but we also have a right to speak up when we feel someone is being abused and to say no, we don't want this or don't accept this.

Personally I'm into porn because I like, indeed love, women. I'm aware that there are some, like Max Hardcore perhaps, that seem to be in it more because they hate and despise women. I think that'sa bit sad really but that's their problem I suppose, but if it leads to women being abused then I will stand up and say no, same as anyone should who's got the balls not to just accept anything that goes.

Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:11 pm
by joe king
well said, but absolute bollocks

'This simulated rape business is disgusting, as is max hardcore and his ilk.
If they came here and offered me a lot of money to shoot his kind of shit, I would smack him/them right in the mouth'

Who cares that you think it is disgusting? Most general people find average porn 'disgusting'.

You seem to have a video cut for r18
THE KINKY WRINKLY - PART 1
120m 16s 0m 13s Not known Chantel, Amanda, Lucy
{When submitted to the BBFC the work had a running time of 120m 29s. To obtain this category cuts of 0m 13s were required. The cuts were Compulsory. Compulsory cut for R18 required to remove abusive dialogue reference to woman losing her virginity at 15 in accordance with BBFC Policy and Guidelines. R18 works are only available in licensed sex shops}

So you can abuse women on film and hypocritically condemn others.


Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:34 pm
by Juju
Jesus what sort of person gets off on rape????


Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:47 pm
by marcusallen
Joe,
You are entitled to your opinion just like anyone else. However, since I have oviously touched a nerve with you I will take time to clarify and put the record straight and simple - so there are no more deliberate misunderstandings on your part, or that of anyone else:

My remarks re the violence portrayed in the name of porn STAND.

Your ref to my video is completely out of order. If a cut of 13seconds was made so be it. However, any refernce to someone losing their virginity aged 15 was made (if at all) in conversation with one of the girls.

Are you suggesting I took a girl's virginity when she was 15?

What is this "abuse" you refer to on my films?

I will stand up and be counted anywhere, anytime, by anyone.

I hereby issue notice on you to either correct your embittered remarks and apologise or face the consequences which would involve either a Court of Law or a somewhat less formal arena.

Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:57 pm
by joe king
'remove abusive dialogue reference to woman losing her virginity at 15'

>Are you suggesting I took a girl's virginity when she was 15?
No, I am not.

>What is this "abuse" you refer to on my films?

The BBFC thought it was abusive dialogue.
Maybe you should complain to the BBFC if you don't think it was abusive.


I haven't seen the film.


Re: Rape Videos

Posted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:04 pm
by marcusallen
For someone who has not seen the film you seem to have a mine of info regarding the BBFC.

I am still waiting for an apology because your snide inferences were totally out of order.