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Re: Quite agree....
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 12:38 pm
by TheDonkeyWork
Has nothing to do with UCTA. The House of Lords ruled that the Red hand doctrine applies to contract terms generally, not just exclusion clauses. I'll vet you find the authorities yourself as you are so clever and superior.
Re: Contract Girls
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:12 pm
by Keiranlee
Any one shooting any porn these days???
Re: Contract Girls
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:44 pm
by hiwatt
1. Any contract between Bluebird and the model is just that, between Bluebird and the model, NOT any other producer.
Please read previous posts on this and the subject of procuring a breach of contract. For your further information :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tortious_interference
2. If, when a model leaves Bluebird and has any remaining period of time on the 12 months left, it is the legal obligation of the model to inform any producer as to this. The onus is not on the producer.
That is what has already been said. The producer is only liable if the producer knows.
3. If a contract is made and signed in Great Britain [you mean England, Wales & Northern Ireland], any legal proceedings would follow British law [you mean English law], NOT American.
And where the contract is with BB International and is expressly made subject to and litigable in both jurisidictions - then it is. The tort of procuring a breach of contract is litigable wherever the damage occurs - in England or the US
Take the proper stance to protect your investments, but to threaten legal action against a producer who has broken no law, nor any contract made by Bluebird is not advisable.
I am sure it isn't. No such threat has been made on this forum. Ignorance of the law, no matter how passionately you believe in that ignorance is not a defence if you knowingly shoot a model who is under contract to someone else. I'm sure you agree.
Re: Contract Girls
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:49 pm
by hiwatt
Re: Restraint Clause
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:51 pm
by paul jones
Maybe, I write as someone who uses the law but doesn't write it....
I have also in the past accepted a restraint clause, (it was narrow, short term and worth my while to do so).
You have stated here that it's only BG work that is prevented. But that isn't what the clause says.
In court you'd have to defend the clause as written.
Pre court you are free to negotiate a less restrictive one.
Any CG worth her salt should see a lawyer. If they say the clause would fail, (and you privately agree), then you are stuffed as you can't negotiate a narrow version unless the CG is willing to do so.
So BB either really believes the clause is valid, OR that no CG will call the bluff.
In either event the sound tactic for BB is to be publicly very tough, and see what happens.
My guess - if a CG convinces BB that she is serious, they'll engage in private confidential negotiation. They won't come here and admit anything.
Re: What direction will BlueBird be going in?
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 2:56 pm
by hiwatt
I tried to answer the question I thought you were asking.
I guess the 4 Volume Department S, featuring Carly Parker, Carmella Bing, Eva Angelina, Audrey Bitoni, Cassie Young, Rita Faltayano, Lesley Zen, and other US girls, plus Angel Dark, Francesca Felucci, and all the BB contract girls, shot on location in the US and UK, and featuring multi-car destruction, helicopters, live weapons firing and an exploding bunny may be a jewel.
Or the 5 volume Murder Mystery Weekend. Or the 3 Volume Black Beauty, also shot on location.
Thanks for letting us know that features cost more than gonzo
Re: What direction will BlueBird be going in?
Posted: Sun Sep 14, 2008 3:03 pm
by hiwatt
I'm sure you're right. I'll have our US feature production team take back the 37 AVN awards they've gathered between them, 'cos they are obviously not up to scratch.
Why not see if you can spot the girls from your own site:
http://club1985.com/?p=121 in our films.
You give it out - can you take it back ?