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Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2003 9:11 pm
by Officer Dibble
Yeah, whenever some one pops up and announces "Cor! I'd love to get into the porn business - there must be loads of Brits out there who want to buy shagging videos!" I shake my head think to myself "Dear o dear. Another one. Where do these folks get their ideas??

Yes, in the past, there were fortunes to be made in adult movies, mages and video, but they were all made 20-30 years ago. If, in say 1975, you fancied buying a wank mag (and in 1975 who didn?t?) you had to buy it from one of maybe half a dozen geezers in the whole world - people like Hugh Hefner, Bob Guccione, Paul Raymond or even our very own lovable diddy Dave. It was they who had the balls and foresight to stick two fingers up to the establishment and they reaped the rewards. Of course once they'd smoothed the way others followed, till it's now reached a stage where we can all be photographers, producers and publishers - even though some of us may not have any ability, talent or real understanding of what we are shooting or publishing.

But even if porn isn't as big or all-important as we might like to think on the forum. Paul Tavener is dam right about not standing by and letting pompous sanctimonious twats decide what we can and cannot watch on our own TVs. Tell 'em to bollocks, because, hey, you're going to watch whatever takes your fancy wehter they like it or not. I don't feel any particular desire to watch the kind of crap porn that I assume TVX or similar would put on for us if it were allowed. But there's no reason why those who do want to watch it shouldn't - apart from it showing they don't have much imagination and taste of course.

What I hate is the idea that is maintained in the public consciousness that there is something wrong with porn, and even sex! You must have heard the term "sex 'n' violence" used by media types thousands of times, but probably not stopped to ponder on it. What they are doing is lumping together the totally natural, normal and pleasurable process of procreation with something, that although natural is unpleasant and negative. This seeps into your consciousness till in public you automatically agreeing with things like "Oh, yes. Sex and violence, awful isn't it? Shouldn?t be allowed. Yes, hmm. It's a disgrace" You unconsciously understand that sex is seen as a negative thing (by being associated with violence) in society and if you haven?t got a mind of your own or don't have the balls to pipe up in public and say you dig it, you could find yourself agreeing with market researchers on the High St - "To much sex and violence on TV Sir/Madame?" "Ohh yes, it's getting worse, someone should do something. We never watch it of course...we only bought the TV for 'Songs Of Praise on a Sunday."

Of course all this is totally false and a load of bullshit. The fact is most normal folks don't give the slightest dam about sex on TV, they're to busy living, getting on with their lives. But when they are put on the spot they either haven?t the balls to be controversial or they've never thought about the issue - or any other issue for that matter - they don't know what day it is and so as not to appear a moron they will quickly rifle through the filing cabinets of their minds till they come to that mornings edition of 'The Currant Bun' or The Mail and repeat the editorial opinion of those tawdry rags. Hence, unrepresentative weirdoes and nutcases can them point to the public outcry against sex 'n' violence on TV, in the cinema, books, plays, mags etc. As I said it's all bollocks, don't let 'them' get away with it. Don't let them make all the running, take the fight to them.

Dibble.

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 4:28 am
by magoo
I completey agree with Dibble on this. No I have not been mixing cough medecine with my scotch again. He speaks the truth on this matter. We may disagree on many things but the old thatcherite is spot on this time.

As for the chap who mentioned Sarahs Anal Gang Bang. I watched it in its hardcore form on Spice Platinum just the other day. In fact I was so taken with her delightfull face that I watched the repeat (four times) and I even taped it. Its not often I tape porn these days so the girl must be doing something right.

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 1:58 pm
by jj
See?
Told you so......smug smug smuggety smug.

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:39 pm
by Paul Tavener
The campaign to lift the ban on broadcasting R18 is more a matter of principle than anything else. It will be a straight fight - freedom of expression verses censorship and intolerance.

If you live in the UK you will see this battle unfolding during the summer of 2003, as I?m sure it will make the papers and probably the TV too. You can sit and watch from the sidelines or you can take an active role and write in.

Send me an e-mail at censorfreetv@hotmail.com and I will send you more information on this complex issue and how to fight the censor. With your help and support we can win.

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 7:53 pm
by Paul Tavener
Thanks for the e-mail Richard, your support will be most welcome. As for the board, I already have a full time job so I would be very difficult for me to take on a part-time job on the content board (unfortunately). However I have writen to the CEO at Ofcom asking him about the recent appointments. I will let everyone know what he says if and when he writes back.

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 8:32 pm
by Paul Tavener
Marcus can you e-mail me at censorfreetv@hotmail.com?

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2003 8:35 pm
by Paul Tavener
One Eyed Jack - I got your e-mail but my response to you has failed to get through twice. I will try again tomorrow

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 4:25 pm
by clive
thrilled to read today that Jonathon edwards has been appointed to OFCOM

Interview in Observer and lets just say, that his views are pretty predictable. family this, family that, too much sex this blah blah blah

Why is i necessary to post christian fundamentaliss to these bodies?

Why do they have the right to judge what we see?

Why him and not One eyed jack? im being serious! The liberal midned

amongst us (the majority i suspect) are equally entitled to views

Right behind this campaign

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:22 pm
by jj
The same Jonathan Edwards who refused on religious principle to compete on Sundays, found himself with hardly any competitions, and abruptly changed his mind?

Re: Broadcasting R18 on UK TV?

Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2003 5:25 pm
by clive
thats him...

hes a twat