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Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 4:54 pm
by jimslip
Your welcome Mark! Adobe Premiere? that's going back in time, I had a massive double tower, twin fan, double monitor PC system running it, with every bell and whistle you could add on and it was still shite!! I still managed to put together loads of shows with it, but it was like being the captain of some leaky old submarine in WW2, always expecting some kind of disaster was just around the corner..........and it was!!
I hope you find your editor!!sherlock! All the best!
Re: What is FCP you ask?
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 5:02 pm
by jimslip
Ok, ok already, stop emailing me asking, "Dear Jim, can you explain the principles of the Apple Pro Res codec?"
Well to put it simply:
Apple?s ProRes 422 is a 10 bit, full raster codec that uses a discrete cosine transform (DCT) based
compression algorithm. ProRes supports all of the standard HD and SD frame geometries, and assorted smaller geometries for proxy-based editing and playback in Final Cut Server. There is also support for various 2K geometries such as the DCI specific output at 2048 x 1080 and the standard 2K digital intermediate frame geometries of 2048 x 1556 and 2048 x 1152.
ProRes has 2 levels of compression. ProRes 422 (HQ) and ProRes 422. For HD (both 1080 and 720) geometries, the average data rates are 220Mbits and 145Mbits respectively. For SD geometries the average data rates are 63Mbps and 42 Mbps respectively.
As a comparison, Sony?s HDCam camera format is approximately 136Mbits, while Panasonic?s DVCPROHD is listed as 100Mbits. Even delivery formats like Panasonic?s D5 mastering format is only slightly less compressed than ProResHQ at 250Mbits for 1080pSF 23.98, while HDCam SR?s mastering format is
usually recorded in 4:4:4: Dual Link mode at 440Mbit (880Mbits is now available) ProRes is a variable bit rate (VBR) codec, where the amount of compression can vary on a frame-
by-frame basis. ProRes has the ability to scale the picture size during playback, with the ability for full frame output from delivered 1/4 size frames. This lowers the data throughput while maintaining high image quality. The end result is that the user gets to playback more tracks of video in realtime with higher quality previews, and increased RT functionality. Think of it as Dynamic Offline!
I hope that explains it!!
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Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2011 7:30 pm
by one eyed jack
Premieres changed a lot since those days Jim
What are your views, if any on Premiere Production Premium CS5? Have you tried it out?
Never used FCP but in theory, arent they very similar when you know youre way around?
Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 am
by jimslip
Hi OEJ. I haven't used Adobe for about 5 years and my early problems were about 7 years back when FCP was hardly heard of and Adobe ruled. But I believe I have a copy APP CS5 on the Windows partition on my Macbook Pro. I believe that you can edit AVCHD directly on Adobe is this correct? On a Mac it has to be transcoded. Anyway, for various reasons I haven't tried it yet but I am sure it is good.
The problem is that very often you use programmes because of pressure from clients. In my case broadcasters are now demanding fulfilment in the Apple Pro Res format, which isn't available on Adobe......I presume. Because of this FCP is now overtaking Avid as the worldwide industry standard.
Another reason is that a Mac / OSX is a very stable platform to run a complex editing programme and can you continue editing and mucking around for days without the computer ever crashing. Apple designed Macs from the outset for graphic designers and it pays off for people like me. PC's on the other hand were designed for everyone and that's where their weakness lies when it comes to highly demanding graphic/ editing software is concerned. (This is only my view, before I am attacked by PC fans)
Also FCP is only a small part of the Final Cut Studio, there are a host of other amazing programmes as well. I used a programme called Motion and created a exploding supernova in space for a title sequence recently and you can then pop into Garage band, which is just a standard Mac programme and find thousands of sound effects if you need them.
Don't get me wrong I am not one of those excruciating, "I'm a believer!" "Mac Nerds", I'm a "Computer whore", I will lie with whatever platform works best for me and at the moment it's Apple.
Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:38 am
by Peter
jimslip wrote:
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> Don't get me wrong I am not one of those excruciating, "I'm a
> believer!" "Mac Nerds", I'm a "Computer whore", I will lie with
> whatever platform works best for me and at the moment it's
> Apple.
Com'on Jim, you've come such a long way since your first enquiries into the world of macdom on these forums. Time to take that last step and admit you are at one with us. Time to embrace the world of Steve.
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Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:24 am
by jimslip
The genious of apple is that they have mad their products aspirational. In Kingston Surrey, there is an Apple Store and a PC World. PC World is more or less empty and the Apple Store is packed with kids playing with the products.
I wonder what machines they'll be buying when they grow up?
Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:49 pm
by one eyed jack
Thanks Jim
FCP is a popular format for editing with film makers and porn producers alike that If i was looking for work it would be a wise investment to have anyway.
Doesnt take em long to work out how to use things.
I first started out on a Media Studio Pro and was dereading theday I had to edit on it but foun it was pretty easy bar the 3 minute limitation to the hard drive back then then I had to string lal the clips together to make up the final edit...Damn that was a good 7 8 years ago. Premiere saved me from this hell.
I use Edius 6 from Grass Valley for transcoding AVCHD and it is really easy to use
Re: What is FCP you ask?
Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:00 am
by Daz Savage
Now then... what's a MacBook?
Is it a Scottish author?
Re: What is FCP you ask?
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:17 am
by PKAY
Jimslip - I remember it well. The old 3 machine edit suite, no insert editing, shooting stuff on 2 separate tapes if you wanted a dissolve!! And the cost - crazy days.
I remember when I 1st heard about FCP, I was working on Avid and it just seemed unbelievable. I bought from the first 500 copies that came in to the UK, got a G4, some monitors and a deck and never looked back.
Re: FCP Editor required. full time position
Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:30 am
by MISTER C
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