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I might look out for some of those books, they sound interesting.

"Ward was categorically not spying for the Russians. For one, he didn't have the temperament to be a spy ? he was a blabbermouth."

I don't know how you can be 100% certain about that.

"Watch the interview again and she says that she would be living with Ward if he were still alive so while she abandoned him (as did all his friends), she didn't hate him."

I haven't seen the 'Wogan' interview since it was broadcast, and that was 25 or 26 years ago. I remember it like it was recently though, and I recall Christine Keeler saying that 'Stephen was spying'.

"MI5 were supposedly trying to turn Ivanov. In any case, Ward wanting to show off approached MI5 ? his contact was Keith Wagstaffe ? not the other way round."

According to the film 'Scandal' M15 were in touch with Ward often then abandoned him later on.

On the issue of working a 17 hour day, that is quite standard for frontline politicans. I used to be a Civil Servant for a large government department a stones throw from Parliament Square. I worked there for many years. The ministers and their immediate staff start work around 7.30am or 8.00am and often work to almost midnight. Business in the House of Commons can go on very late, you often get ministers live on breakfast TV shows and often interviewed late-night aswell.

If the establishment were just out to protect their own then I'm puzzled as to why the former Harrrow schoolboy, Oxford graduate, and member of the Bullingdon Club - John Profumo - was hung out to dry and had to spend the next few decades doing unpaid charity work in the east end. He was accepted back into bosom of political society later on when he had dinner in Downing Street with Thatcher and her ministers (or did something similar, I am recalling this from memory), and I believe he met the Queen later on too. Here is one of the last, possibly THE last picture taken of John Profumo - at Ted Heath's memorial service in 2005. You can see he was on the final furlong of life:

"Business in the House of Commons can go on very late".

Not anymore.

What are the sitting (meeting) hours of the House of Commons?

2.30-10.30pm on Mondays, 11.30am-7.30pm on Tuesdays and Wednesdays, 9.30am-5.30pm on Thursdays and 9.30am-3pm on sitting Fridays.



I think I could work till 10:30 pm one day a week. Especially if I didn't have to start till 2:30 pm.

Q. Why was Profumo hung out to dry?

A. There were bigger fish than him to protect.

I'm not surprised he looks so haggard in that photo.

Too much shagging pretty 19 year old blondes!

There was undoubtably more to the Stephen Ward story than is included in the Profumo Keeler Davis saga. Stephen Ward was befriending young women and introducing them to rich and influential men for years before he met Keeler/Davis. One of his proteges was Ruth Ellis' best friend Vicky Martin for instance

http://www.pamela-green.com/vicki-marti ... och-behar/

max_tranmere wrote:

> "Ward was categorically not spying for the Russians. For one,
> he didn't have the temperament to be a spy ? he was a
> blabbermouth."
>
> I don't know how you can be 100% certain about that.

Because those who knew him ? without a financial axe to grind ? say so.

>
> "Watch the interview again and she says that she would be
> living with Ward if he were still alive so while she abandoned
> him (as did all his friends), she didn't hate him."
>
> I haven't seen the 'Wogan' interview since it was broadcast,
> and that was 25 or 26 years ago. I remember it like it was
> recently though, and I recall Christine Keeler saying that
> 'Stephen was spying'.

She has said lots of things including in her second autobiography getting her own date of birth wrong!
>
> "MI5 were supposedly trying to turn Ivanov. In any case, Ward
> wanting to show off approached MI5 ? his contact was Keith
> Wagstaffe ? not the other way round."
>
> According to the film 'Scandal' M15 were in touch with Ward
> often then abandoned him later on.

At Ward's initial instigation.

>
> On the issue of working a 17 hour day, that is quite standard
> for frontline politicans. I used to be a Civil Servant for a
> large government department a stones throw from Parliament
> Square. I worked there for many years. The ministers and their
> immediate staff start work around 7.30am or 8.00am and often
> work to almost midnight. Business in the House of Commons can
> go on very late, you often get ministers live on breakfast TV
> shows and often interviewed late-night aswell.

Not any more, as Spider says. See below.