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"Immoral" wife beater buried - is that better?

No. As one-sided as Argie's comments.

So that's it then. Mandela's life in a nutshell. He hit his wife allegedly and supported violent responses to the apartheid regime that treated black people as subhuman, engaged in ethnic cleansing to move millions of blacks against their will and imprisoned, tortured or slaughtered anyone who opposed the regime. He should have stayed home on his porch, eating citrus fruit, singing spirituals and waiting for Paul Simon to sign him up for an album.

Perhaps you can turn your hand to biography, Lad? How about -

Princess Di - She sat down by herself in front of the Taj Mahal, allegedly shagged that Hewitt bloke and wasn't too keen on the Royal Family. That's her life encapsulated in a sentence.

Or Churchill - He smoked cigars, did a bit of painting and got involved in quite a few wars.

And you ask why I post on this forum? Where else would I get the endless amusement I get from reading some of the comments here?

Priceless stuff!

David Johnson wrote:


>
> Princess Di - She sat down by herself in front of the Taj
> Mahal, allegedly shagged that Hewitt bloke and wasn't too keen
> on the Royal Family. That's her life encapsulated in a
> sentence.
>
You have, like Jeffrey Archer, a gift for inaccurate pr?cis.

The Princess of Wales did not "allegedly" shag James Hewitt. There is no dispute ? both sides freely admitted it.

She had innumerable lovers during her marriage to the Prince of Wales and also something of a cocaine habit.

You ask what defines a murderer and a terrorist, and whether that would include anyone authorising illegal wars and anyone defending their country from attack. I've said on this thread and on another than in my view if a group has a cause which most reasonable-thinking people would regard as just, and they act solely like an army, then they should be classed as freedom fighters and not terrorists. As I've said, Mandela & the ANC I would regard as 75% freedom fighters and 25% terrorists. This is because they did some things outside the remit of what would be regarded as fair and reasonable in a war situation, namely bombing places where there were civilians that they knew would result in civilian casualties.

This from Wikipedia, any references to 'terrorist' and 'terrorism' in this piece is the subjective use of terminology and it is down to the individual reader whether it is that or not, as I said above:

STARTS
Umkhonto we Sizwe (or MK), translated "Spear of the Nation", was the military wing of the ANC. Partly in response to the Sharpeville massacre of 1960, individual members of the ANC found it necessary to consider violence to combat what passive protest had failed to quell. There was a significant portion of the ANC who therefore turned to violence to achieve their goals. A significant portion of ANC leadership agreed that this violence was needed to combat increasing backlash from the government. Some ANC members were upset by the actions of the MK, and refused to accept violence as necessary for the ending of apartheid, but these individuals became a minority as the militant leaders such as Nelson Mandela gained significant popularity. Many consider their actions to be criminal, but the MK deemed the means justified by the end goal of ending apartheid. The MK committed terrorist acts to achieve their aims, and MK was responsible for the deaths of both civilians and members of the military. Acts of terrorism committed by the MK include the Church Street bombing and the Magoo's Bar bombing. In co-operation with the South African Communist Party, MK was founded in 1961.
ENDS

Have we ever stepped outside the remit of reasonable warfare in order to achieve a political aim? Certainly. I agree with what you say about the sinking of the Belgrano. I also think Dresden was a warcrime. So was the entire Iraq war.

She has been quoted above. The only reason that woman is even heard of or has a page in one of the newspapers is because of who her brother is - the blonde haired guy who is the current Mayor of London. That family is now more at the forefront in society because of him, so we get his sister with her own page in the paper and her appearing on TV from time to time aswell. She arrogantly believes the public are interested in her and in what she has to say.

Please stop, my sides are splitting.

"Mandela & the ANC I would regard as 75% freedom fighters and 25% terrorists"

Oh yes, I can just see the judge.

Mr Mandela, I am going to show leniency in this case because you are only a 25% terrorist.

Go and find your other brain cell Max, I think it must have fallen out.

Cuntybollocks wrote:

> "Mandela & the ANC I would regard as 75% freedom fighters and
> 25% terrorists"
>
> Oh yes, I can just see the judge.
>
> Mr Mandela, I am going to show leniency in this case because
> you are only a 25% terrorist.
>
> Go and find your other brain cell Max, I think it must have
> fallen out.

Cuntybollocks, please answer this question, yes or no - was Mandela the first black President of South Africa?

a m playlist wrote:

> Cuntybollocks wrote:
>
> > "Mandela & the ANC I would regard as 75% freedom fighters
> and
> > 25% terrorists"
> >
> > Oh yes, I can just see the judge.
> >
> > Mr Mandela, I am going to show leniency in this case because
> > you are only a 25% terrorist.
> >
> > Go and find your other brain cell Max, I think it must have
> > fallen out.
>
> Cuntybollocks, please answer this question, yes or no - was
> Mandela the first black President of South Africa?
>
>

What's that got to do with whether he was a terrorist or not? Number 6 hasn't answered the question posed to him.

Essex Lad wrote:

> a m playlist wrote:
>
> > Cuntybollocks wrote:
> >
> > > "Mandela & the ANC I would regard as 75% freedom fighters
> > and
> > > 25% terrorists"
> > >
> > > Oh yes, I can just see the judge.
> > >
> > > Mr Mandela, I am going to show leniency in this case
> because
> > > you are only a 25% terrorist.
> > >
> > > Go and find your other brain cell Max, I think it must have
> > > fallen out.
> >
> > Cuntybollocks, please answer this question, yes or no - was
> > Mandela the first black President of South Africa?
> >
> >
>
> What's that got to do with whether he was a terrorist or not?
> Number 6 hasn't answered the question posed to him.

Essex Lad, please answer this question, yes or no - was Mandela the first black President of South Africa?

oh well this murdering piece of shit can at last go and meet his communist hero's stalin and mao and all the others who believed it was ok to murder people for the greater good

But i really think all the inconvenient truths and facts about his life should be airbrushed out of the history books and deleted from the google search engine and replaced with something like the following:

"Nelson Mandela was a cuddly old grandad figure who did a few minor naughty things and was locked up for a very long time by the nasty white people to shut him up and when he got out of prison everyone was happy and everything was ok.And he had a very good friend called Gerry Adams who did some minor naughty things also but only because the British were so horrible to him,who was part of the guard of honour at his funeral"