Jeffrey's spending review

[number 6]

Yes,wonga loans,the founders of which gave huge money to the tory party,quite ironic that they seem to be the only online loan company that give loans to unemployed people!! Conspiracy theory anyone?? The first week you lose your job and have no savings will be aptly named wonga week.

[Gentleman]

And back to the removal of social fund loans., all in it together.

[Essex Lad]

David Johnson wrote:


> We have been over this extensively in the past on this forum.
> If you don't agree than that is obviously your prerogative. No
> more to be said really.

It is not that I don't agree I don't understand your point about it not being worthwhile getting the longterm unemployed into work. That seems to have no logic whatsoever.

The government calls those 440,000 scroungers. So what? What's that got to do with trying to get them working again?

[David Johnson]

"It is not that I don't agree I don't understand your point about it not being worthwhile getting the longterm unemployed into work. That seems to have no logic whatsoever."

I know you are really struggling to understand the point. You did months ago. You do now. I don't say anywhere that it is not worthwhile getting the long term unemployed to work.

" The government calls those 440,000 scroungers. So what?"

If you don't understand that, no more to be said.

[Gentleman]

The number of jobs needed to provide full employment or any where near it don't exist?

[David Johnson]

Correct. When you have over a 1,000 people applying for a handful of jobs in Costa Coffee, paying little above the minimum wage, it illustrates that basically we have an enormous lack of jobs problem.

And within that a huge problem in terms of a lack of well paid, skilled jobs. Demonising the unemployed merely tries to deflect attention from the nature of that underlying problem

[Jonone]

That will be interesting. I worked for DWP for two years, largely on Crisis Loans. A small number of people were entirely dependant on them, for example they were appealing a sanction on their benefit/allowance and in the meantime were collecting a Crisis Loan on a weekly basis.

I can't see that they would be able to do this under the new system.

[Essex Lad]

David Johnson wrote:

> "It is not that I don't agree I don't understand your point
> about it not being worthwhile getting the longterm unemployed
> into work. That seems to have no logic whatsoever."
>
> I know you are really struggling to understand the point. You
> did months ago. You do now. I don't say anywhere that it is
> not worthwhile getting the long term unemployed to work.
>
So what point are you trying to make?