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Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:26 pm
by Flat_Eric
spider wrote:
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So presumably you also know about things like forced marriage, female circumcision, honour killings and generally treating women like second-class citizens then.
- Eric
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:33 pm
by j2kbug
This is so what is wrong with this country. People like Spider are actually apologizing for the actions of the vile animals who committed these acts & blaming there actions on culture, upbringing & the media.
Yes I know that the MSM (mainstream media) spin & blow things out of proportion.
According to the vile animals according to them that sex was legal at age 11 ?in his country?. Two points wrong with that argument. One they are in the UK so they should respect the laws of the land. Two if you want to have sex with an 11 y.o (which is sick in my mind) they fuck off back to your own country & do it.
Race card was played by the ringleader as he refused to attend court as the jury was all white. Well boo-freaking-hoo. You're in the UK not bloody Pakistan or whereever you came from.
If you want me to rant on some more then I will gladly do it!!!!
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:36 pm
by spider
"This is so what is wrong with this country. People like Spider are actually apologizing for the actions of the vile animals who committed these acts & blaming there actions on culture, upbringing & the media."
What a load of bollocks.
I quote......
"These men were rightly convicted."
See my post above.
You should have gone to specsavers.
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:47 pm
by spider
So presumably you also know about things like forced marriage, female circumcision, honour killings and generally treating women like second-class citizens then.
- Eric
Yes I do. All terrible things.
The point is you raised the scenario about how the media would spin their coverage if it was a case of White men abusing Asian girls.
I said this scenario was unlikely to play out for the reasons I have set out.
I've still not that particular point contradicted.
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:50 pm
by Jonone
The honour thing arguably militates against abusing Asian girls as there would tend to be serious repercussions in terms of reprisals ?
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:58 pm
by Flat_Eric
Spider, you miss the point entirely. The point raised isn't how likely or unlikely it is to happen. It's about how it would be spun in the media if it were to happen.
In any case, do you seriously believe that all Muslim parents are model parents, and/or that all Muslim girls do exactly as they're told all the time and never drink / smoke / take drugs / run away from home / otherwise go "off the rails"? Because believe me it can and does happen (having been married to an Iranian woman, I've been around a lot of Muslims and have seen it for myself).
- Eric
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:01 pm
by Lizard
Just to clear it up, they were Muslim peadophile's and rapists, and presumably because they commited these crimes against white non muslim girls, the judge in the case did seem to think there was a racial element,
"In comments which appeared to conflict with police insistence that there was no "racial or cultural" element to the crimes, Judge Gerald Clifton added: "One of the factors leading to that was the fact that they were not part of your community or religion." (scource:
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:11 pm
by spider
I refer you to my previous point.
Why are you so interested in how the media are going to spin it?
Especially when you quote from a piece in the Sun.
I just wish they would print the Sun on softer paper, it's only fit to wipe your arse on.
No I do not believe that all Muslim parents are model parents. Perhaps you could explain where you get that idea from?
What I said was that the scenario you set out was unlikely to pan out for the reasons I explained.
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:16 pm
by Peter
spider wrote:
> Perverts come exclusively from the Asian community then do
> they?
In cases like this, (the organised, group grooming and abuse of underage girls) 67 out of 77 jailed for it have been Pakistani muslims. It may not be exclusive, but they're severely over-represented.
It isn't an asian problem, it's an islam problem.
Re: Nine guilty over child exploitation ring
Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 2:18 pm
by Toliverwist
Toliverwist
Date: 05-09-12 16:33
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spider
Date: 05-09-12 15:56
"Some of those who fucked the white children, and played pass the parcel with them, in one case between 20 men in one day, are the very Asian parents you allude to. It seems a shame their sense of responsibility for their own children's welfare apparently does not extend to children from a different cultural background."
Perverts come exclusively from the Asian community then do they?
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Toliverwist
What is it about the 'sentence subject' in the sentence;
"Some of those who fucked the white children, and played pass the parcel with them, in one case between 20 men in one day, are the very Asian parents you allude to."
that you don't understand?
By the sentence subject, I obviously mean - "Some of those who fucked the white children, and played pass the parcel with them,"
How does that sentence subject label, or in any way infer, anything whatsoever about those outside that nominated sentence subject, i.e. the rest of humanity?
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spider
Date: 05-09-12 17:22
Is there an answer to the question I raised?
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Toliverwist
Is there an answer to the question I raised?
What is there about my previous post, and the subject of my sentence, which was, ?the parents you allude to?, which gives you the excuse to imply that my post suggested ?Perverts come exclusively from the Asian community??
To explain further, what I would like an explanation for is, how does referring to the very particular set of child fuckers that was the subject of my sentence, suggest to you that;
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?Perverts come exclusively from the Asian community then do they?? end quote.
Just so that there can be no misunderstanding, how does my phrase, ?the very Asian parents you allude to, come to mean that ?
?Perverts come exclusively from the Asian community then do they???
In the case of a non-answer that would itself be the answer.