Re: Pornstars who quit and then condem the industry -
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:48 pm
[quote]Not really Sam. Even as a child I was an adult in my outlook. Never was wild, I am still not wild at 34 & never will be.[/quote]
I bet you was a blast to knock around with as a kid tongueincheek Still, I think you're in a minority there. I'm not saying we all regret things we've done as kids/teenagers, just that we may do things differently -if at all- later in life.
[quote]The argument about drugs does not really wash. Because lots of people have drug habits & fund it through working a 9-5 job that they do not really like.[/quote]
True, but I do think that porn is a job you can more easily fit into a drug-addicted lifestyle. At least for a few good years. It's much easier to make a few grand and then have a week off when doing porn than it is with a regular 9-to-5.
[quote]The bs Lubben pushes is that pornstars somehow become addicts only because of the porn business, the truth is they would most likely be addicts in a regular job too-because they have addictive personalities.[/quote]
I agree with this. But my point has less to do with this Ms. Lubben's opinions and more to do with the general point that we shouldn't just dismiss ex-pornstar's opinions and views on the industry just because they may say something bad about it. Because they have experience in the industry and now have no vested interest in promoting it, I think it's healthy to take on board their criticisms and judge them in a fair and objective manner. Better this than dismiss all criticism out of hand.
[quote]The thing is what exactly are these girls doing since they left porn? Do any of them actually have regular jobs? Or have they realised that they can make a very good living working the born again deal & having people send them money & gifts? Because that seems to be the only thing we can see them doing.[/quote]
Some may have acquired an anti-porn agenda since leaving the industry, sure. Then we should judge each one as an individual and take into account their probable prejudices. My original post was giving my thoughts about girls who've left the industry and then condemn it.......which I think is what KazB asked for. It's in the title of the thread. I wasn't attempting to defend any one individual.
[quote]Maybe it is just me being an atheist & suspicious of any religious movement that avoids paying tax & seems to exist solely to control the weak minded & fleece the gullible of their money.[/quote]
Being an anti-theist I understand your position. I in no way want to defend any loony, theistic moral stance on this.
I guess you could say that a porn industry who doesn't take on board criticism from the very people who were once personally involved would be like a religious group denying there's anything wrong with their scriptures.
I bet you was a blast to knock around with as a kid tongueincheek Still, I think you're in a minority there. I'm not saying we all regret things we've done as kids/teenagers, just that we may do things differently -if at all- later in life.
[quote]The argument about drugs does not really wash. Because lots of people have drug habits & fund it through working a 9-5 job that they do not really like.[/quote]
True, but I do think that porn is a job you can more easily fit into a drug-addicted lifestyle. At least for a few good years. It's much easier to make a few grand and then have a week off when doing porn than it is with a regular 9-to-5.
[quote]The bs Lubben pushes is that pornstars somehow become addicts only because of the porn business, the truth is they would most likely be addicts in a regular job too-because they have addictive personalities.[/quote]
I agree with this. But my point has less to do with this Ms. Lubben's opinions and more to do with the general point that we shouldn't just dismiss ex-pornstar's opinions and views on the industry just because they may say something bad about it. Because they have experience in the industry and now have no vested interest in promoting it, I think it's healthy to take on board their criticisms and judge them in a fair and objective manner. Better this than dismiss all criticism out of hand.
[quote]The thing is what exactly are these girls doing since they left porn? Do any of them actually have regular jobs? Or have they realised that they can make a very good living working the born again deal & having people send them money & gifts? Because that seems to be the only thing we can see them doing.[/quote]
Some may have acquired an anti-porn agenda since leaving the industry, sure. Then we should judge each one as an individual and take into account their probable prejudices. My original post was giving my thoughts about girls who've left the industry and then condemn it.......which I think is what KazB asked for. It's in the title of the thread. I wasn't attempting to defend any one individual.
[quote]Maybe it is just me being an atheist & suspicious of any religious movement that avoids paying tax & seems to exist solely to control the weak minded & fleece the gullible of their money.[/quote]
Being an anti-theist I understand your position. I in no way want to defend any loony, theistic moral stance on this.
I guess you could say that a porn industry who doesn't take on board criticism from the very people who were once personally involved would be like a religious group denying there's anything wrong with their scriptures.