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Re: Cameron's mission: Destroy the NHS

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:24 pm
by number 6
You actually think they believe in the NHS? Do you know anything about the tory party and its history? I suggest you read up. They DESPISE the NHS and all it stands for,for most tories its a dream come true to abolish it.

This thread has lost the plot! Remember this?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 9:43 pm
by milton
Todays events and Camerons recent criticisms of the NHS throw the following into a whole new context.....

I cannot find the words to express my utter loathing of such a man.





Ian.


Re: Cameron's mission: Destroy the NHS

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:31 pm
by number 6
YawnFuck, who created the NHS? Look at the decaying state it was in when the tories were booted out in 97,and look at it when labour left in 2010. Please don't try and tell me the tories care about the NHS. They tried to stop it coming into fruition in Atlee's govt.

Re: This thread has lost the plot! Remember this?

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 10:32 pm
by number 6
You think going against the advice of all health professionals,nurses and basically everyone who woprks in the nhs is going to make it better? Ok, maybe you should seek some treatment yourself.

Re: This thread has lost the plot! Remember this?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 5:04 am
by wayne
As someone who had to deal with peoples learning disabled children (not the cute big faced ones who end on the telly but the ones who try to bite off parts of your face) It was pure political gold for the Camerons to have had a disabled child as they could use it ay any point to show how caring and ordinary they are.


No concerns for them about care staff, money problmes or the social care dept being ravaged.

GPs and Immunisation

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 6:14 am
by David Johnson
GPs could be forced to hand over control of ordering flu vaccine after complaints about this year's programme, the Government's director of immunisation has suggested. Professor David Salisbury said there was a "pretty compelling" case for the Government to take charge

This comes the day after the government publish plans to give ?80 billion to GP consortia.

Not particularly confidence building then.

Cheers
D

Facts?

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:34 am
by David Johnson
"The ONLY party EVER to REDUCE NHS spending was Labour"

There was a reduction in spending under Callaghan during ONE year.

Hardly condemnatory of Labour over the last 40 years, given the independent King's Foundation analysis of the NHS was that it was on the point of collapse in 1997 and that by 2010 the Labour government had

" made advances in setting standards for high-quality, safe care based on the best available evidence and measuring improvements from patients? perspectives. Waiting times for hospital care have been reduced, and access to primary care has been improved. There has been progress in making the NHS more accountable and transparent to government and taxpayers.

As you know presumably because your info appears to be taken from a Cameron TV appearance on the Andrew Marr show, Cameron has been banging on about a "real terms rise in NHS spending".

So here's some INDEPENDENT reviews of that statement

While the Spending Review makes clear there will be "real terms increases in each year", the Nuffield Trust report states in its introduction: ?The real-terms change in NHS funding, net of the social care support, is therefore a reduction of 0.5 per cent over the next four years.?

Work done by the House of Commons Library "The figures again suggest that without the social care money, the NHS would see a slight real terms reduction."

In addition, this "real term increase" which isnt actually a real term increase is dependent on the Office of Budget Responsibility's estimate of inflation. As we know, earlier in the week, there was a huge leap in the Consumer Price Index.

If you want to read further on the INDEPENDENT King Foundation's work instead of swallowing whole everything Cameron tells you either on the tele or in print, have a read here. The position on inflation has considerably worsened since the assessment below was written in December.

http://www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/new_inflation.html

Cheers
D