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Re: Hated it

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 1:45 pm
by Toliverwist
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David Johnson
Date: 02-13-10 23:10

Nah, I hated it. When I went along with the EU, I thought we were getting increased, export markets for German businesses. And we ended up getting flooded with hundreds of thousands of Britishers.

We were sold down the river by German politicians. I didn't vote for Frankfurt to be turned into some British colony, full of Britishers with their funny, smelling foods. I felt like the country I grew up in, no longer existed. If these Britishers made some effort to learn the language and integrate it would have been something.

No chance, they herded together like schweinhund, undercutting German workers, doing German workers out of jobs, moaning about not being able to see Birmingham City on the television in the bars and saving all their money for their families back home rather than spending it on German businesses. Germany is going to hell in a handcart with this lot.

And all the time, moan, moan, moan. If Germany is so bad, why don't they piss off back to England then. Eh? Eh?
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A very pertinent question.

I know you are taking the piss, and for which purpose you are presumably casting all the British, (in Britain) in the same stereotype.

However, much as I hate to de-poison your covert barbs, yes they should learn the language, and yes if they don't like the society in which they are living, then they should return to where they came from, or alternatively return to their cultural roots. This principle obtains as much for the British as for anyone else.


Re: Hated it

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 2:42 pm
by william
Tiz was Dusseldorf actually - trying not to be a raddish.....

Anyways worry about the germans ? Were only rebuilding what we blew up in the way anyways and anyways they bombed me granny.....

Toliverwist

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 5:19 pm
by David Johnson
"However, much as I hate to de-poison your covert barbs, yes they should learn the language, and yes if they don't like the society in which they are living, then they should return to where they came from, or alternatively return to their cultural roots. This principle obtains as much for the British as for anyone else."

Depends, I guess on the economic circumstances. If a country is struggling to get the skilled people it requires e.g. brickies in Germany and then turns to British contractors to get a six month contract finished as happened in the 80's, I don't see that they "should" learn German.

"and yes if they don't like the society in which they are living, then they should return to where they came from,"

I see no logic in this comment. Haven't you been in Spain and listened to all the British expats moaning on and on about Spain? Soon as you start talking about them going back to the UK, they will then go on about how crap it is in the UK and the country has totally gone to the dogs, etc, etc, etc, etc.

Re: Auf Wiedersehen Pet

Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 7:20 pm
by Ken Shabby
The first two series' were classic. I have to agree with Von Boy, and say that Barry was my favourite character. ('I'm not a bloody gremlin, y'know!') Hilarious!
I never forget that after series 2 finished, I heard that Timothy Spall wasn't really a brummie at all - I couldn't believe it, he was so convincing! What an actor!
And let's not forget the late Gary Holton as Wayne. He was the cool one, the ladies man. I remember, in the 80's, wanting to be like him.
That episode where the two of them are trying to get in to see those air hostesses in that posh hotel. And they end up, with security after them, having to climb out of a window and jump off a porch/ canopy thing.
Fantastic writing. Bloody brilliant!

Re: Auf Wiedersehen Pet

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:56 am
by william
Two accents of note Barry and that scouser Moxey.... when you hear both of them talk normal its almost creepy.....

Re: Toliverwist

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:01 am
by Toliverwist
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David Johnson
Date: 05-08-12 21:19

"and yes if they don't like the society in which they are living, then they should return to where they came from,"

I see no logic in this comment. Haven't you been in Spain and listened to all the British expats moaning on and on about Spain? Soon as you start talking about them going back to the UK, they will then go on about how crap it is in the UK and the country has totally gone to the dogs, etc, etc, etc, etc.
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I see no logic in your logic. I have absolutely no connection with, or attachment to, British ?migr?s.

I have no responsibility for what British emigrants living in Spain have to say.If they didn't like it in the UK and they don't like it in Spain, then they should move to a place that they do like, if such a place exists.


Re: Auf Wiedersehen Pet

Posted: Wed May 09, 2012 7:32 am
by Flat_Eric
Apples and oranges David. You're not really comparing like with like.

Most UK emigres living abroad are relatively wealthy (or at least reasonably comfortably off) professionals, or are retirees with their own private insurance and pension plans etc., whereas most (though admittedly not all) immigrants to the UK are either unskilled or semi-skilled itinerant workers, so-called "asylum seekers" or family members of people already living here. There are also more of them concentrated in one relatively small country, the UK. All of this places a disproportionate burden on the health service, education system and general infrastructure.

I recently read somewhere (and no - it wasn't the Daily Mail) that in 2010 there were now about 7.5 million immigrants contentrated in the UK, as against about 5 million Brits scattered across the globe, so the Brits are far more "diluted".

I do agree though that the efforts made by your average Brit to integrate into the host societies in non English-speaking countries are often every bit as bad as many of those living in the UK's "Muslim community" (for example).

- Eric