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Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:00 am
by one eyed jack
What you are saying Derrick76 is probably the agents dont want the white girls working with black guys, not because it devalues them but because they dont like it because they are racists themselves or seriously insecure.
Having said that, it bothers me not a jot if a girl says she doesnt do black guys. Ive had it said before and I've reacted that its ok. Work with a white guy then. I'm not doing this to satisfy my own personal needs for sex.
I never take anything personal with regards to who models want to work with or not. Its all about choice so I respect that.
Ironically, a couple of girls who dont do "inter racial" ended up shagging me by their own choice off camera anyway so confused dot com I iz.
Funny enough one of those girls was a black girl who was involved with a 50 year old man so i wouldnt waste time dwelling on it in this business.
You can't fuck em all and nor would I want to but I sure gave it a good try !happy!
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:27 am
by frankthring
In my experience of 30 years directing I would add the following general
comments:
a) In LA inter-racial is very much a personal thing for each girl; girls
coming from the Deep South or American working class backgrounds
have often had sex with black guys before getting into porn. Girls
from other backgrounds (the mid-west or Ivy League) might be more
nervous.
b) It does NOT reduce a girl`s earning power to have done black guys
on camera. There are a few black males - Lexington Steel for instance
- who are highly rated among all producers.
c) The reason that girls may turn down a scene with the average black
stud, quite apart from her preferences or nervousness, is that in LA
Aids is associated more with the black community and also other
things such as hepatitus and heavy use of a cocktail of drugs. Since
most black studs are booked for cock size (not university degrees)
they often come from the "wrong side of the tracks" and almost
certainly have had some drugs experience.
d) Black people also sweat more than whites or seem to do so under
studio lights. Some girls find that they have general hygiene
issues with these same ghetto studs.
f) My comments are not meant to offend or judge anyone - but are as
I have encountered things working in Hollywood.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:21 pm
by one eyed jack
Interesting points Frank.
So white guys dont do drugs or have hygiene issues or come from the "wrong side of the tracks" either huh?
Thanks for clearing that up
So white guys dont do gay for pay and all the other things that black people are guilty for?
Interesting.
Lets not forget that HIV and drug addiction is not gender or race specific. Nor is the sweat issue under studio lights
Not a pop at you personally Frank but if this is the thinking that is prevalent in the US then i dont rate them very highly for being intelligent.
I'd rather stick with the simple fact they just dont want to work with black guys and leave it at that.
I can accept they dont find black men attractive. I dont find racism that appealing either but would I work with someone who doesnt like black people?
Yeah sure, as long as he can get it up. I'll pay him and make money out of his ass. No two people agree on everything and I expect this comes down simply to preferences.
I can respect that. Dont mean I have to like it.
I dont think the US mentality is going to solve their racial problems anytime too soon and proves as hue-mans we have a very long way to go as a species in general.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 12:39 pm
by Jonone
Isn't the whole ideology of interracial porn questionable though and porn tends to reinforce stereotypes rather than challenge them.
Arguably some of Frank's observations are examples of people accepting race ideologies that have been propagated by news media for hundreds of years.
Fundamentally a black guy with a white woman is seen as taboo and trangressive in a way that a latino/white or oriental/white match-up isn't. Interracial porn reinforces this and for it to be seen as transgressive there has to be negative attributes, values and behaviours associated with the black guys.
The whole niche is highly dubious isn't it ?
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:27 pm
by one eyed jack
Yes Jonone..and I suspect, part of its appeal.
Its that whole what is wrong but feels so right that appeals to those who partake.
Like its a rebellious thing to do. its extra slutty fucking a black mans big black cock and every other black connotation that goes with it.
I just resent the excuses made against it. Theres a lot of black guys who dont do drugs, smell nice, look good and all that otjher stuff that would appeal to the opposite sex so they prefer working with an old fat white man instead on a bukkake shoot???? Mega LOL
I guess the excuse is , "at least he is white"
See how trivila it gets when it comes down tothe colour odf ones skin?
I know its more but I just dont get it and respect anyone who doesnt wna tto work with anyone else for whatever reason.
Its all personal choice anyway and a waste of time examining motives. Theres plenty women that do. Why waste time on thiose who dont.
Jenna Jameson can keep her half interested half the time pussy to herself! The way she dissed the industry a few years ago i doubt she enjoyed fucking any man regardless of his colour.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 1:33 pm
by one eyed jack
The best people to ask about all this are the girls who have worked with black guys. Im no authority on the subject anyway.
I dont fancy black guys and wouldnt do em for any amount of money !happy! But then again i wouldnt do any bloke for any amount of money either. Black, white or anywhere inbetween
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:06 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]geee, hmmm, some of the same models who say they will never do IR say it's because they find black unattractive; then they turn around and do Ron Jeremy, who they proceed to say is ugly. [/quote]
gee, hmmmm.....this threads nearly 18 months old. Oh, and I know some girls who wouldn't do Ron Jeremy. Back to my point: I'd shag a slim ugly bird over a decent looking fat one.....well, depends how ugly we're talking but the general rule applies.
[quote]The IR policy in the USA stinks, and no amount of dressing up and excuses will change that. If the policy is that having sex with a black man will devalue a white woman, what exactly is that supposed to mean?[/quote]
I don't disagree with what you say. My main point was to highlight that not doing IR doesn't automatically mean this is due to racist views. If we're going to treat sexual preference as a sign of real prejudice then that means we're all bigoted in some way. I'm bigoted when it comes to fatties and guys. I wouldn't do either.
[quote]Let's not kid ourselves. Many models who started out doing interracial on Killergram go to the USA and all of a sudden don't do IR anymore. Put 2 and 2 together and see if you can arrive at 22 (others say 4); I did. Add them and you'll get 4.[/quote]
Yep. You've made 5. Re the Killagram girls: I'd say it's more likely they're prolonging their marketability. The longer you hold off doing IR over in the valley the more you'll get offered when you do do it. It's purely about finances for some. Have a look around at other forums with guys begging some well known star to do IR and it will become clear. Holding off leads to more demand and more demand leads to more money. It's the same with certain girls who hold off doing BG and stick to GG. They end up getting a large offers because no one's seen them doing BG scenes yet. Same goes for anal/cream pie etc etc.
Of course, some of it may be all about colour prejudice, but not all. There are many reasons and we shouldn't label a girl purely based on who she will and won't sleep with.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 2:17 pm
by mrchapel
> I dont fancy black guys and wouldnt do em for any amount of
> money
Dammit yer a homophobic racist.
I do agree with what Jonone said though, some of these websites and dvds have got ads that the BNP would declare offensive
"Oh No! There's a Negro in my Daughter
You had big hopes for your daughter. She was your pride and joy-your little princess. But, then she fucked a Negro. She'll never find a good man now. She's doomed to be a revolving door for unemployed black penis. So, you can forget about early retirement and moving down to Florida. It's time to find a second job to support your daughter and her fatherless half-Negro baby."
Negro in my Daughter 2
You always did your best to ensure a bright future for your daughter. You paid for braces to straighten her teeth. You drove her to soccer practice so she'd stay fit and learn to be a winner. You even kept her away from malt liquor and rap music. But despite your best efforts, she's fucking a Negro.
Because of your failure, she's doomed to a lifetime of poverty and fried chicken dinners. You no longer have a daughter. All you can do now is pray that you won't have any half-colored grandchildren either.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:43 pm
by frankthring
Ref my earlier blog - sorry Jonone if what I said seems offensive and it
is meant with no slurs of any kind. Simply comments on ways I think
US porn girls view black studs generally, based on almost a decade
living and working in Hollywood.....no one has to agree with me or see
things exactly the same way.....but I have at least worked and talked
with girls and guys in the crazy environment of Hollywood, which is
rather more than some of the other guys writing on bgafd.
Re: pornstars that dont do interracial?
Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 3:57 pm
by andy at handiwork
Some years ago whilst browsing a stroke book store in LA I came across a strand of porn that was specifically along the lines of 'No Black Guys Allowed' which the bloke behind the counter suggested was a very popular line with some of his client?le.