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Re: BNP leader to meet the Queen...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:29 am
by max_tranmere
The BBC seem to be doing the 'ban the BNP from meeting the Queen' posse's work for them. Whilst covering this story the BBC has given platforms to anyone and everyone who wants to slag off the BNP and say they should be allowed to meet the Queen. Some left-wing group were on BBC news going on about it, so was Boris Johnson. So much for them being a neutral broadcaster. Boris Johnson believes in democracy but only when he benefits. He got 100,000 more votes than Ken Livingstone at the last Mayor election - sufficient for Boris to get the job, a job he then happily took up. Apparently the BNP guy who now has a seat on the London Assembly got 120,000 votes but Johnstone doesn't regard him as having any mandate from the people and should be marginalised and ingored. Incredible how 100,000 votes gives Boris a mandate, and he recognises that fact and takes advantage of everyting 100,000 votes brings with it, yet 120,000 votes is not something that should be acknowledged and respected when it is for someone else.
Re: BNP leader to meet the Queen...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 10:32 am
by number 6
Are you saying the bbc should treat the bnp the same as they do the mainstream parties? Thats saying fascism is ok mannn,,,yeah these fascists are cool let them in
Re: BNP leader to meet the Queen...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:15 am
by silkflame
Hi Max.
Don't believe the rubbish you hear about asylum seekers.
there was a statement by the refugee council today on the importance of asylum:
?These statistics are a clear reminder of why providing sanctuary in Britain is more important than ever. If we just take the top few countries of origin of asylum claimants: Zimbabwe, Eritrea, Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq ? they are all countries where violence and human rights abuses are rife and well-documented.
?Contrary to what people think, Britain does not receive the most asylum applications in Europe. France and Italy both took higher numbers last year. Offering safety from war and persecution is utterly crucial in these troubled times. We need to make sure we continue to do our bit, for it really is a matter of life and death.?
http://www.refugeecouncil.org.uk/news/p ... 0520_b.htm
providing refuge for people in need is something to be proud of; doing it in times of crisis even more so. It's this that makes a nonsense of the BNP's claims to represent Britain and Britishness.
Re: BNP leader to meet the Queen...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:32 am
by max_tranmere
Number 6, I don't support the BNP or anything they stand for. All I'm saying is that in a democracy anyone who gets sufficient votes to win a seat somewhere should have that recognised. Like I mentioned, the BNP guy in London got more votes than was the differnce between what Johnson got over Livingstone - sufficient for Johnson to get the job. And yes, the BBC should treat the BNP like any other party. If the BNP, who I stress again I have no time for, have a mandate from the people, then they should be treated like any other party. If they cross a line, with any incitement to harm other races, or they spout racist terminology, then there are laws in place to bring them to book.
Re: BNP leader to meet the Queen...
Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 11:48 am
by max_tranmere
silkflame, the vast majority of 'asylum seekers' are just lying their way into the country and are using it as a means of getting residency through the backdoor. Proof of this is the amount who got turned down and are then either removed, or are told they will be (often they just stay as the authorities can't be bothered to deport them). Under the Dublin convention of 1990 it says that people must claim asylum in the first safe country they get to. As we are at least 7 countries away from the nearest trouble spot, it proves that the ones who end up here (and the numbers added together over the last 10-15 years will easily exceed a million) are being selective about where they go. How can it be right that these people travel to the north of France and then try and break into Britain? The notion that these people can be called asylum seekers and had to get to the UK to be safe and to avoid persecution and so on. Really? I've been to France a number of times and I've never heard of any French people needing to escape from there. It's a nice safe place. So when these people turn up in the UK this should be pointed out to them - they should be told to explain why they felt the need to escape from France to claim asylum here, when no one has actually felt the need to escape from France since German occupation in the 1940's. It's like a supposedly starving man arriving at your house and demanding food and he tells you he is on your doorstep cos there was nowhere else to get any food, but then it turns out that the last 7 houses would have given him a banquet if he asked for it (and he knew this) but he turned it down.