Like I stated elsewhere, it has to be all down to perceptions of 'who will cause me least damage?'
There is much to dislike about all of them, but the current regime seem to be recklessly 'blase' about doing what ever the hell they like - and history will show many of the decisions made by the current bunch of bandits to be not only unpopular but economically suicidle.
The unfortunate thing is, post-Blair, in order to become electable the likes of Cameron have to court the media and the idiot public with stunts like cycling to work etc
Road Taxes - Green Dave Sticks it to Broon
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They're locking them up today, they're throwing away the key...I wonder who it be tomorrow, you or me?
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dynatech wrote:
> The unfortunate thing is, post-Blair, in order to become
> electable the likes of Cameron have to court the media and the
> idiot public with stunts like cycling to work etc
>
When you say idiot public I thought (according to the Tories) that one of the reasons the public of Crewe and Nantwich voted for the Cameron clone was because of the Labour media stunts saying he was a toff?
They apparently had had enough of such things.
I also recall Green Dave saying he wanted to put an end to it and Punch and Judy politics?
I am not an expert in the economy in any way and will leave others to explain it but there was a rather good thread on here a while back with the general opinion being that the reason for the housing crisis is down to far to many people getting mortgages far to big for what they could afford.
I am not sure what Brown could do about that especially with an independent Bank of England but I didn't jump at the opportunity to take huge financial risk, despite it being offered and it baffles me why others did and now moan about it when their gamble backfired.
I personally think this back dated tax on cars is daft but it would be good to know what Green Dave would do. At the moment when he is asked anything his usual answer is to not answer and say something on the lines its my job to ask questions of the government not provide solutions.
> The unfortunate thing is, post-Blair, in order to become
> electable the likes of Cameron have to court the media and the
> idiot public with stunts like cycling to work etc
>
When you say idiot public I thought (according to the Tories) that one of the reasons the public of Crewe and Nantwich voted for the Cameron clone was because of the Labour media stunts saying he was a toff?
They apparently had had enough of such things.
I also recall Green Dave saying he wanted to put an end to it and Punch and Judy politics?
I am not an expert in the economy in any way and will leave others to explain it but there was a rather good thread on here a while back with the general opinion being that the reason for the housing crisis is down to far to many people getting mortgages far to big for what they could afford.
I am not sure what Brown could do about that especially with an independent Bank of England but I didn't jump at the opportunity to take huge financial risk, despite it being offered and it baffles me why others did and now moan about it when their gamble backfired.
I personally think this back dated tax on cars is daft but it would be good to know what Green Dave would do. At the moment when he is asked anything his usual answer is to not answer and say something on the lines its my job to ask questions of the government not provide solutions.
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Ah the lessons of history, Officer
Re. the Conservatives, it was probably a little unfortunate that the good people of Crewe didn't delve into the past to work out the originator of today's woes which led them to voting Tory e.g.
Increasing cost of rail travel.
Who privatised the rail network?
Increasing cost of gas, electricity and oil?
Who privatised the utilty companies and gave them a license to print money which has been reflected in huge profits for utilities.
Incompetence in the banking sector which has led to a credit crunch and problems with getting a reasonable mortgage?
Who deregularised the banking sector so that shady practices became rampant?
Rise in food prices etc.
Who was it who propagated the idea that you can't buck the markets and that the price is the price?
Lack of community.
Who was it who said that there is no such thing as society and that the Good Samaritan was only able to help because he had some dosh?
Problem with the 10p tax rate being abolished.
Who was it who opposed the 10p tax rate being introduced in the first place?
Low pay.
Who was it that consistently opposed the introduction of the minimum wage.
Very good, Dibble it was the Conservatives mainly in the time of the Blessed Margaret and Norman Lamont. Wasnt that nice Mr. Cameron part of Norman Lamont's team?
In short, anyone who thinks the Conservatives can provide a solution to today's problems, have a level of optimism totally unsupported by the facts. Cameron is basically a wide boy who is letting Brown get on with shooting himself in the foot whilst he, Cameron, carries on with his Tony Blair impression.
Words almost, but not quite, fail me.
Cheers
David
Increasing cost of rail travel.
Who privatised the rail network?
Increasing cost of gas, electricity and oil?
Who privatised the utilty companies and gave them a license to print money which has been reflected in huge profits for utilities.
Incompetence in the banking sector which has led to a credit crunch and problems with getting a reasonable mortgage?
Who deregularised the banking sector so that shady practices became rampant?
Rise in food prices etc.
Who was it who propagated the idea that you can't buck the markets and that the price is the price?
Lack of community.
Who was it who said that there is no such thing as society and that the Good Samaritan was only able to help because he had some dosh?
Problem with the 10p tax rate being abolished.
Who was it who opposed the 10p tax rate being introduced in the first place?
Low pay.
Who was it that consistently opposed the introduction of the minimum wage.
Very good, Dibble it was the Conservatives mainly in the time of the Blessed Margaret and Norman Lamont. Wasnt that nice Mr. Cameron part of Norman Lamont's team?
In short, anyone who thinks the Conservatives can provide a solution to today's problems, have a level of optimism totally unsupported by the facts. Cameron is basically a wide boy who is letting Brown get on with shooting himself in the foot whilst he, Cameron, carries on with his Tony Blair impression.
Words almost, but not quite, fail me.
Cheers
David