"Poverty".

[c.j.jaxxon]

Yep! Like I said before, you can't help those who won't help themselves and my fellow Africans need help and will accept it. But the thing about them over there is that they'll take that opportunity and do for themselves, something we as blacks over here finally learned but not quick enough.

[Sam Slater]

Edit: 'these' phenomena.

We so need an edit function.

[Deuce Bigolo]

To be fair it was a whites only club before the likes of affirmative action
opened the door a little

Don't the whites love to bleat about how unfair that is...some people never know how good they've got it

Should be free education & a skilled job for everybody that has the brains to acquire the qualifications IMHO not just a quota system

Look at how the lack of skilled workers is going to hurt the worlds economies
with all the baby boomers retiring shortly

[c.j.jaxxon]

As I remember I was replying to Giles' post, not Trumptons. Giles was the one with the name calling which made me post. Good night all!!! Got to go to work in the morning!!

[Trumpton]

Giles wrote:
>
> If people are poor then they are of course naturally stupid
> because they would have done something about being poor if they
> had any brains.

You can not equate being poor with stupidity.

> If you start helping people then they lose the
> ability to help themselves and become dependent on the state.

Up to a point that's true.

> Thank goodness it's so hard to claim benefits for very long.

As I understand the situation a person can claim benefit for an indefinite period.

> Why they can't all go and get a job, any job, say in Tescos
> beats me.

In many areas there are simply no jobs.

> It's because they don't want to work....

Some don't know how to work as they've never experienced the process of work!

[Trumpton]

warren zevon rip wrote:

> Trumpton's neo-Fascist nonsense.

I can't see where you get that nonsense from my original post? I was being honest.

> Btw, Trumpty doesn't really believe all that stuff about
> Marxist-motivated politicians,

Most socialist politicans - or to be accurate politicans who wish to be portrayed as socialist - have studied in great detail the teachings of Marx, Lenin and Trotsky!

[jj]

warren zevon rip wrote:
....nobody smart enough to use a computer believes British politicians in
> any major party are influenced by Marx any more.


I disagree completely.

As far as I can tell ALL politicians seem to have been influenced by
Groucho.