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If I DID do this, I would waver any right to legal representation and ASK to do some serious time, such would be my total shame and guilt.
I have gone out a few times and got wankered, and not once did I attempt to drive home, mind you, I have paid a fortune in taxi's........worth every penny...................and my conscience is clear

My point is this though.

Who is the "bigger" menace to society?

Its all about intent not the actual crime committed when it comes to the punishment handed out

Never forget that the courts have to way up whats best for society
unless we want to go down the "eye for an eye under any circumstances"
road

The one thing that is clear to me is Cars are not seen as the potential lethal weapons that they really are

A lot of it is due to the inability to know ones own limits when intoxicated

Maybe making all ignitions systems breath started like they do for repeat DUI offenders should be mandatory?

Then there would be no guessing as to wether I am really capable

cheers
B....OZ

If you kill driving drunk, you should get life for murder. Someone I knew for over 30 years was killed by a drunk driver about a year ago and her sons and grandsons were devastated by it.

Both are a menace to society, one habitually and the other when tanked up and behind the wheel of a car. Ace's commentspretty much sum up what I feel. I cannot change what I did when younger, but I was lucky on the three occasions it happened that no one had to pay for my irresponsible stupidity. Don't think I could live with the guilt.

again, not so simple a black and white case. If you had been out for a night out and had say 6 beers and driven at 8 am, and someone stepped out and you killed them.
Maybe you had done nothing wrong but you could still have failed a breath test, is this still a case for you being charged with murder?

i'm not excusing it, but there is a difference between driving when clearly out of it and being just over the limit. I bet a lot of people have but it's the case of 'just for the grace of god go I '

I raised this subject as it caused a very heated debate in our local pub and thought it was a good topic for here which I think it has been.

Whereas I think this is a bad crime and one that should see a hefty custodial sentence I still don't see it as bad as alot of other crimes and as bad as most of you see it.

However I am in the minority and I'm honest enough to think that maybe it's me that has the wrong attitude and not the majority.

I take several points on board namely that if it was a member of my family then I may well and probably would see it differently.

However the one point that I do disagree with is calling it murder. It is not murder. Manslaughter most definitely. Murder it is not.

The one point I will pick up on is the hypocrisy of people in our local pub. Many people there thought she should be hung drawn and quartered yet some of these people regularly drive home "under the influence".

This includes one bloke who my mates tell me that on a typical Saturday will drink 20 pints during the day and will round it off with a takeaway which he drives himself home with. They say he does this nearly every Saturday.

Now he said that the woman should get 20 years for her crime and the words flogging and hanging entered his vocabularly.

He in my opinion is worse than her as not only is he an accident waiting to happen then he is condemning somebody for drink driving which is a crime that he commits most weeks.

You should not hesitate, report the bastard immediately. you can do it annonymously if you wish. Just think how you would feel if he did kill someone!
geoff

I've never seen him do it myself as I am long gone by the time he is ready to depart.

Too many people have told me that he does it for it not to be true. The stupid thing about is that he parks his car right outside the pub and the pub is 30 yards away from.............the police station.

I would have no compunction about getting his details like car reg. and phoning the police.
I did it when I was living in the UK and saw the same arseholes getting pissed every night in my local.

Mart