See Bluebird Is Taken Over

[paul markham]

paulpaul wrote:

> I honestly wish you guys all the best but the way things are in
> adult right now right across the board both here, USA and
> basiclly everywhere, you better hurry up before the bottom
> comes completley crashing down.

This is true. What ever Bobbyduke says the DVD market is getting smaller as people switch over to the Web for their porn. And that is no longer a license to print money.

However Bluebird could have problems selling 18+ porn via mail order. To my knowledge it's illegal and can result in big fines and even imprisonment. Thank the BBFC and your local Trading Standards Office for that.

Getting titles into porn shops or for download from a website are the only safe ways to supply the UK.

With the money Bluebird have thrown at production some would of been better spent is getting the product and brand to customers.

[Paul Taylor]

I have never been worried, I find new girls all the time, maybe it is because I am from geordie land I don't know, but they seem to be 3 or 4 good ones every 6 months or so, well maybe not 6 months exactly but frequently.

You should see some of the new faces I have shot this year so far, when my site goes live, shit I sound like bluebird there lol. ( joking before anyone has a go)

But I am just a small producer who will never amount to the success of bluebird and certainly not have the budget however I get by and am not out of pocket at least last time I wasnt, its been two years and people may not be interested in what I do anymore, only time will tell.

There are girls out there and I am doing alright, plus thats the selling point of my work, I want as many newbies as possible, dont get me wrong I still wanna work with more well known models too but no one remembers those scenes, everytime I have popped up on forums ( only the odd time mind) its always about a model I shot who hasnt appeared anywhere else.

And I have had the odd e-mail off bigger people asking me how I do it, in which case I am not going to reveval how, its nice that I can do something that the bigger guys cant do just for a minute, I may not have their budget but I have my resources and I make do with what I have and make it work.

The girls are out there

Paul

[paul markham]

Paul Taylor wrote:

> The girls are out there
>
> Paul
>

I agree with Paul.

I don't know if it's changed but I used to find new girls all the time when I was in London. Some were complete new comers who did it once, some went on to be stars. And some were already stars. I used to advertise in Loot and Girl about Town and the phone kept ringing.



Thing is, there was great girls to be found and with the recession I doubt if it's changed.

[jamieglamour]

Fair play to BB for investing in porn, employing the models, editors etc.

My question is this. If they have the millions (and they have proven they have) why can't the product get out on time?

[Capo Jack]

Well said terry respect !


and paul i agree what you saying the whole reason i started this i contacted a model she agreed a shoot then 2 days before said she cant do it she is signing a contract with the uk biggest porn company when i said bluebird she mumbled so there you go.

Anywayz like you said paul my friend plenty of fish in the sea not only that iv seen models comeback to you once there contract runs out asking for work because im sure some one said once it job on the model side for life.



Any ways am out peace!

[hiwatt]

They ARE being released in the UK.
But the BBFC has to certificate them first.
We shot the 3 being referred to in Feb-April 2010. They're in certification now (May).
If You can something to hurry that process along - thanks a lot

[Paul Taylor]

I also agree with Paul lol

alot of the girls I found didn't really do much for others they wanted to try it, then thats it, done.

However I shot people like Leigh Logan and Viola Von Vild and they got some work with some of the bigger companies.

Paul

[Paul Taylor]

yep Cappo you know too well that has happened to me, they want work when they not contracted no more and also I lost models to them choosing to sign up with companies but hey what can you do, used to anoy me I am not arsed.

Paul

[one eyed jack]

Dont get annoyed chaps. Its all i the game.

You just gotta get yours and not worry about the next man because they certianly aint worried about you.

There are few reasons to why girls never work for anyone out of contract and that might be because its stipoulated in their vcontract not to work woith anyone else for 2 years

or the girls think that working for nayone less than a big company is going down the ladder because its like being fired

Ultimately, do as Paul does, Find the new girls and if you lose them to big companies, hey, find more

Watch yourself there Paul yo umight have people hiring you to be finders for new girls. I know what this business is like. I had it when I first started

[one eyed jack]

Any model going under contract for a period of a year shouldnt be doing it for less than 50k...because thats potentially what she could earn out of contract.

I found out why some girls didnt go under contract in the US versus those that did and the girls who wanted to make the monst money preferred being out of ocntract.

The good thing about being under contract is that you dont have to work as much, so if a girl is on 25k and does 10 scenes a year then thisis ok but she should scrutinise her contract as to what work she can doso she is not in breach