British industry

[one eyed jack]

Rob D,

Sorry if my post felt like an attack on you. It wasnt. You are perfectly entitled to share your views. I was just sharing mine.

The topic of good porn vs bad porn is always going to be subjective to the individual which is why its great there is a wide variety available but as you said there is too much fetish (?) This maybe symptomatic of everyone feeling there is too much gonzo around and expressing the need to be that bit different.

What makes me hoot with laughter is the new producer who feels he is going to do something different then films himself POV with a model that has done it a thousand times before with a different penis...(Yes highly original Im sure)...Especially those who think they will blow Ben Dover out the water...(Ha ha yeah right!!!)

Thing is some people with grand ideas have no idea how to execute those ideas into a final product and dont understand why.

If making movies was that easy then everybody would be a success at it.

Ultimately every producer is making the porn that they want to make, it just depends if the consumer is of the same mind and wants to buy it. Thats the risk a producer runs trying something new and for most its best to stick to the tried and tested which leads us back to what you said about too much of the same thing just becoming plain old tired and boring....Unless it is new to you of course then thats a different matter.

[Bicycle Bum]

When the recession is over in 2013/2014 I'm gonna shoot some highly original porn, and there may be a job in it for you.

[one eyed jack]

Highly original porn eh? Ok...

The Recession didnt stop David O Selznick producing Gone With The Wind and it was worse in comparison then than it is today (that lasted for at least 10 years).

I mention that because though it was risky, the film was immensely successful because the people needed something like that to escape the misery of their situation.

Porn is the modern equivalent to that.

In short; Dont wait for the recession to finish. If you are going to do it...Do it.

[Trumpton]

RobD wrote:

> with the Brit industry getting bigger by the day

I thought the Brit 'industry' was going tits-up to coin a phrase? !confused!

[one eyed jack]

If posts are to be believed over the years the business has been tits up for years Trumpton.

Thing is when individuals have negative opinions about the industry it doesnt mean its tits up for everyone.

Its like when people say the industry could do with more variation then another will complain there is too much fetish (??)

Personally I think the problem is there is waaay to much porn out there that the average porn fan is finding it hard to keep up and is probably depressed at the onslaught of so much porn.

Especially if you are looking for something that will better the last one but all you get is the same old same but with different faces.

[Keni]

Hiya Everyone,

Thanks for the mention Terry, I appreciate it and actually is the reason I found this thread. I think it is a great topic and certainly I agree with a lot of the opinions aired here in the sense that both the market being in a difficult situation at the moment and that to survive and even grow the UK industry needs to make changes in the mentality towards their product and who they are appealing to.

One point that I personally feel important is that I really don't get the whole, "Us Vs Them" attitude? Honestly, is it really that important? I don't see it as a competition of global localities as such, I mean come on, the market is competitive enough that I think we have bigger things to worry about than if Brit porn is better the Euro porn or American porn.

Personally I think that as long as directors keep their individual shooting style then it does not matter where your from just that your product is good in your eyes.

Yes I am patriotic and I am proud to be British, I hope that we keep finding new 'homegrown' stars and directors with new styles that will also appeal to the wider world and gain more publicity and success but the fact they are Biritsh is secondary, the fact that they make great porn is paramount!

We have the talent and we have the resources, it is just a matter of who really 'wants' to do something good right?

My 2 cents,

Keni

[Dave Wells]

Yeah, he was a typical suave Italian full of himself.

[randyandy]

I think the problems with the British industry are that it feels it has to be like everyone else.

Many moons ago when I first started watching I couldn't abide false American but enjoyed seeing a 'uk girl of the streets' getting a 'normal' rogering.

Now all this spitting, slapping and gagging crap really does bore me.

Why anyone would want to see a decent looking women abused like this is beyond me.

Having said that I think the main reason people use free sites is because of the TV rip offs, plying soft under the banner of hard and the lack of trust punters have in joining pay sites because they feel the same thing will happen.

Sadly all to often we come on here and read about it and until the industry deals with issues like that it will always unfortunately have its problems.

When I first started watching porn was relatively hard to find, rip off was a big risk, often expected and basically a muppets gamble but these days its not and with so many free options available the industry should wake up and see the damage being caused from within.

Not sure how you achieve it when most of the big players think its a perfectly acceptable thing to do but I would imagine its a minimum expectation if it ever wants to be taken seriously.

[Floydoid]

randyandy wrote:

> Now all this spitting, slapping and gagging crap really does bore me.
>
> Why anyone would want to see a decent looking women abused like this is beyond me.

I couldn't agree more mate. Recently I've been watching quite a bit of the re-packaged Sarah Young stuff from the early 90's and was almost surprised by the way all the girls were treated with the utmost respect (not to mention the lovely styling).

[one eyed jack]

The gagging and spitting stuff is probbaly done by those who see this as an alternative to what they may percieve as sterile porn. Im not saying I agree with it but this is precisely what I mean when it comes to how much variety available to the consumer.

Some people are happy with a paracetomol and others are looking for that stronger equivalent of crack cocaine.

Lets not forget that every man is not cut from the same cloth as another. Its also beyond me how people can particpate in mass kilings of other human beings. How banks can rape us all out of our money and plunge us into financial chaos. Porn in all its forms just mirrors realities going on in the world to me.

No two men are going to agree on their specific tastes for porn. What is shit for one is brilliant to another.

Lets not forget that for most people porn is a fantasy where they get to watch the kind of sex that they couldnt or wouldnt necessarily want to do to their wives or girlfriends (probably because they'd get a slap or be ridiculed)


Oh and the reason people download stuff is not with those reasons in mind Randy Andy..They do so because it is just there available for free. Pure and simple.

People who use excuses and reasons are just trying to deny the fact they are stealing.

There are ways of checking to see if you will get ripped off by sites and this forum is certainly one of them.

I have to admire the honesty of a site that calls itself the **********.