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Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:20 pm
by one eyed jack
Kym, on another note, that is precisely my point, why should I get the same as what other producers are putting out if we are all to work the same way? Hardly seems worth it unless you get something different or a variation on the same theme as it were..

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:28 pm
by titanic
Just a coment on your girl/girl thing
We only shoot real girl/girl ie real orgasms etc ( ask any of the girls that work with us) and we make it quite clear to models who apply.
So here are a few of the genuine replys we have had.
"I dont mind her going down on me but I wont go down on her "
"Do we have to kiss"
"Can my partner watch"
But my all time favourite is "Im happy to do hard girl/girl but will not do nude"
Just a few of the lighter things that make this job so much easier.


o/t Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:35 pm
by woodgnome
one eyed jack wrote:

> Deuce: May I convince you to see Belladonnas Evil Pink scene
> with Cytheria...I echoed the words "Fuckin hell!" with her when
> Cytheria gushed into her face several times. Now that is a
> woman who can work women man! I was humbled by that scene. This
> proves to me you can still have hot girl/ girl scenes.

i would also highly recommend cytheria's scene in 'mature women with younger girls 8'. the format may not be to everyones taste but the heat between cytheria and the older women is incendiary.

p.s. terry - for the love of god (and at the ten thousandth time of asking) PLEEEEEEZE click the 'Reply To This Message' link on the right-hand side of your screen when responding to a particular post. otherwise, every single one of your posts appears below the very top post to those who read the forum in the 'threaded view'. this is especially problematic in longer threads, when it becomes increasingly hard to know who you are answering.

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:11 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Which makes them excellent for Pictures and average for Film IMHO

They might be able to convey the right looks at the appropriate moments
and make all the right noises as expected but the bulk are just the American version of the barely legal genre IMHO

The sad facts are the Women from "old Europe" with the dangerous curves have been replaced by nothing more than Very Fit Street Smart Young ladies from the Adult Scene

Gorgeous they may be but when you've been perusing websites for years like I have full of them they do become very repetitive almost dare I say it STALE

cheers
B....OZ

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:29 pm
by Officer Dibble
I guess, your 'common as muck Essex girl' would fit the bill, but chavs are nebulous things and it can get difficult to say who is and who isn't. For instance, although they are extremely well minted, Posh and Becks are chavs. Jordan is a chav (in fact she's the queen of chavs). I guess the one thing all chavs have in common is that they are derived from working class, or underclass, stock and share a common naff culture - if that's not a contradiction in terms.

But most of us subscribe to certain aspects of chav culture (popular culture, tabloid culture). I, for instance, have a passion for 'Double Whoppers With Cheese' down at Burger King - not as chavy as McDonalds, but eating in there means you're pretty much sure to be troughing down with a chav or two.

Going back to your Essex girl. Yeah, chav birds pretty much always wear mucky jeans or tracky bottoms. That's always a chavy sign (class birds wear skirts and dresses) but chav birds don't wear makeup - which is why they always look pasty, bland and totally unappealing. Now, there are two main reasons why a girl does not wear makeup - they are either to stupid, or to lazy, to put it on. Stupidity and laziness are common chav traits. I recall a survey some months back involving a big business organisation (possibly Institute of Directors) where they asked company bosses and bigwigs how they felt about women (employees) wearing makeup, particularly at interviews. The results were quite illuminating ? more than 50% of the guys questioned said they would not hire a girl who had not bothered to put on her makeup for the interview. But the thing that really made me sit up was that something like 65% of lady bosses would not hire a girl who turned up for an interview with no make up on! ? the implication being that the girl was either to stupid, or to lazy, to put it on. They didn?t care about their appearance ? not the kind of traits anyone is looking for in an employee. I was initially expecting the lady bosses to be much more sympathetic to the no-makeup girls. But then I realised they understood, much better than men, the issues and attitudes surrounding the female ritual of putting on (or otherwise) some ?lippy?. They understood that if a girl wasn?t up to that, she wouldn?t be up to much else either.

Anyhow, checkout this site. It?ll give you the low-down on chavs and chavers.


Officer Dibble ? glad to be of service

Re: o/t Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:41 pm
by one eyed jack
Ooooh....Now I understand. I'm not to bright sometimes. Thanks Woody

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:49 pm
by one eyed jack
Thanks for clearing that up Officer. I was kind of on the right track.

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:13 am
by Officer Dibble
Yeah, t' fuck with the 'barley legal' types. Speakin' as one who has sampled the many ages of woman I can now stand back and declare that young birds are very thin gruel indeed. They don't know jack (so you can't have much of a conversation with 'em) they don't know how to relate to you as a man and are prone to lay there like a rag doll in the event of sex. And speaking of sex, they don't unusually have much in the tit and bum department either - the things that immediately grabs a male's sexual attention. All in all they're pretty crap, though occasionally, aesthetically pleasing. So, for NORMAL red-blooded males, who like a real woman, not much to write home about. I?d advise givin' 'em a miss.

If, as you say Deuce, the Continental tide is swingin' towards teeny types, instead of proper women, it must be the baleful influence of those appalling pervy fuckers from the States, who go over there and tell all the agencies they are looking for teenies, not proper sophisticated women. Set of twats (I hope Dubya and his cronies fucks 'em up). Then when all these teeny videos hit the streets, that's it. It becomes received wisdom. The agencies and girls in eastern Europe then simply assume that is what all western production companies want from a porn performer, and deport themselves accordingly.


Officer Dibble

Re: The problem with UK porn

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2005 12:41 am
by Deuce Bigolo
The barely legal genre will be about as good as it gets if the Old VHS Stock keep flooding the market not to mention the bargain DVD prices being offered as an introductory

I recently received my 6 monhtly Aussie Catalogue from a NON-Pirate offering 500 VHS titles from yesteryear...all for 5 pounds(P & P)....they were also offering new yesteryear dvds for 4 pounds

Anyway you look at it.....its a nail in the coffin for anyone trying to make something new

Then all the girls that might make a lasting impact are smart enough to know its not in their best interests to do hardcore full on so have ownly dabbled in the adult film scene before heading over to do softcore for scoreland,danni.com,suze randall or their own websites

cheers
B....OZ