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Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 11:47 am
by davewells
Very accurate ijsobar.

Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 1:02 pm
by alec
ijsobar wrote:

> On a serious note, I don't think the adult dvd market will ever
> change in the UK - we're just too far behind the pack. Hardcore
> has been availablle in most of Europe for near on 30 years - I
> remember being in France when it was legalised, and that was
> around 1979.

1974/5

Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2004 9:46 pm
by Harry Hardon
Just saw this thread and thought I'd write about a very recent experience I had when asked to help out (unpaid) upon a gonzo video / photo shoot.

Over the past few years, I've done masked / blurred face photoshoot with both leading girls upon here and some other rising stars & non-BGAFD web models.

I enjoy this and the trade off is I'm masked and they don't pay for my time / services - and I have no issues with producers / models who understand the quid quo pro and am happy to help out on this basis.

However, I do have a problem with producers who see fit to ask unpaid males to perform on camera with their faces being shown for both DVD, Television and website content.

The other day, I'd arranged to be part of an amateur shoot and spoke to the model whom I'd been told would be the star of the film and wear a mask.

I arrived at the pub on about ten minutes late however the people arranging the whole thing were not there and arrived twenty minutes after I did.

One of the organisers starting talking about the shoot and how they wanted some guys to chat on camera in a pre-set scene before they went back.

They stated that all guys would have to be happy to have their face shown and that the actual actress we'd be working with was a completely different girl to the one we'd been led to believe - she was going to film the event.

Whilst a like for like change would have been okay, the new model was considerably different to the original actress in size, age and shape (hope that doesn't sound too cruel).

Out of the eight guys who'd come along for free to do this, I think I was the only one who left as I felt the organisers duped us into coming and felt aggrieved I'd wasted half a day when I could have been doing something else.

As far as I was aware, no mention of HIV / STD certificates was made and whilst I'm happy to get tested and take precautions for full penetration, I don't know about the other guys.

I'm sure if all of the guys who'd turned up had taken a stand about being duped and having to show their face on camera for free, the producers of the film would think twice before they tried to make another one but the guys stayed as they wanted free sex.

So who's to blame? In my opinion a mixture of people.

The Producers for trying to cut as many corners as possible to maximise profits however some blame has to be given to the Guys and Girls who let the producers get away with this practice.

People often comment why UK porn is not viewed as a professional industry as the USA - this kind of practice is probably one reason why.

Like I said at the beginning, many producers and actresses are very professional agreeing that in return for performing and giving up your time, you can wear a mask or have your face blurred and I'm okay with these people.

I do however have a problem with the few whom want to make a "professional" film without paying for the co-stars.

That's my ten cents.

Regards

Harry


Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:55 am
by sandie
why is brit porn the worst??????


by what measures are u judging???????


Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 6:39 am
by forepl4yer
Totally agree Harry.

Even worse are the producers who tell guys that their faces will be blurred and don't honour their word.

This happened to me. I was not best pleased to see the photoset in question with my face clearly shown. The matter was resolved after a protest and hopefully no harm done. If the pictures re-appear however then I will be making a personal stand with the producers concerned by maiming the cnuts.

Not withstanding, I was completely shite at the shoot, and am certainly no pornstar (nor do I have any aspirations to be one). I can't even belief the set was used! It wasn't promoted as a 'proper' shoot more of a bukkake thing. If the producers had said that faces would be shown, I would have left there and then. It's only the fact that we were re-assured that our anonymity would be respected that I stayed.

Is it any wonder people think Brit porn is going down hill if they are being charged to view the kind of material I was invloved with!

There's obviously a market for masked blurred shoots using guys of the street, but, the producers could and perhaps should find themselves without any guys to perform if they practice such underhand tactics. It's kind of exploitation in a way.

Just wondering if other people have experienced this type of problem? It's clearly one of the worst aspect of British Porn. If producers are trying to cut costs to such an extent it's no wonder the quality is starting to suffer. Having Chav actresses in the vids. is obviously out of favour with many consumers and surely sticking a number of male Charvers in front of the camera too, can only make things even worse. (I don't class myself as a Chav, by the way!)

After such experiences I am in support of the mainstream production companies and only buy their products.

As a consumer I think there is definately some good British porn, but there is far too much sh**te, giving the overall impression that brit porn is not that good.


Re: Whose to blame for brit porn being the worst

Posted: Sun Nov 21, 2004 8:42 am
by Pianaman
Harry you are right about professionalism but I strongly suspect that this sor of practice goes on the world over and is not a specific indictment of the state of UK porn. Most decent producers here or in the States or Europe I'm sure use professional standards but there will always be those who don't. Look at all those US producers that bend the rules by filming in Brazil for example. And for every pro standard producer there are probably a dozen or more half assed amateurs without a clue who just want to make a quick buckoff a few crack heads. And I hate to think what goes on in parts of Eastern Europe where the sex is so cheap and women in some casess are being forced into the sex industry.