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Several years ago, I had a commission from Northerm & Shell for a certain type of shoot.
I took along Horace Ward who is not only a great snapper but a GENTLEMAN. We had a meeting and all was agreed. UNTIL payment, Ah! the dreaded word.

Mags have a lot to answer for re payment. It is OK for whoever is buying pix at any given time and we all know how quickly pic editors change, but mag owners are the scum of the earth: greedy motherfuckers like Sullivan,Raymond, the Gold Bros et al have buried themselves and there is no way they have any kind of redemption. Certain exceptions paid on delivery and were gentlemen.

Sure, mag sales are falling compared to the heyday before VCR's but I have no sympathy with them (after all, they are only millionaires). Had they treated photogs better - like as human beings -perhaps they would have fared better. As it is, I have as much sympathy for them as I would for a cockroach.

We don't make much of a living we must just like looking at pussy !

Peter I have had a couple of sets waiting at one American mag since 1998 and yes they insist they still want them and WILL publish them !?!

True Dave, I have been concentrating more the video side of the biz for the last few years but this year I was asked to shoot a load of stills sets for your old lot and N&S so I've got me appetite back as it were. So I may well be sending you some stuff soon. Plus I have throughout always sold Joanies and Twiggies stuff so I know the lie of the land as it were.

Suze doesn't do any shooting anymore just oversees everything.

Joanie Allum

Does she still shoot, her work was great too.

And she discovered Linda Lusardi at a bus stop.

Plus there is Jeany Savage on the page 3 side.

Michelle xxx

Suze is still shooting, along with Holly, her daughter. In fact, Suze popped in last week during a flying visit to the UK. Still very much behind the camera, although she is branching more into video these days.

Joannie's still shooting, too, although not quite as frenetically these days. She's a bit more choosy as to who she shoots, but I still see the occasional set from her.

I agree with you that many models can be all the points that you raised. But surely alot of this is because of their presumption that the photrapher is a scumbag in the the first place, which then allows the models to behave like this, guilt free.
I'm sure that girls would be better behaved if the photographers were better behaved as well.

I'm glad the mighty Suze is still at it, she is a God. She was also very nice to a mere mortal, me, once. I look at her stuff and just think, "One day I want to shoot something THAT good." With the Budapest Uber-Babes I'm getting closer but she's a legend. I saw a set she shot with the eternal idol Sandy and it just smoked. Respect.

Try mixing tungsten lights with daylight. Give you that nice hard edge.