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Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 6:08 pm
by Paul Tavener
"But it appears from this forum, that creative content means absolutely nothing", content is important very important, in s/c and h/c but it does rely on everyone playing on a level playing field - a certain amount of fairness and common sense in regulation which we do not have at the moment. At the moment many people are distracted by the novelty factor of h/c it?s only to be expected.
It might well be that there is scope for h/c and s/c channels in the future and that would be good for diversity, but it is unacceptable for the government to restrict everyone to s/c because they don't like h/c. It?s a bit like saying you can?t show a woman?s breast then arguing whether you need to show it or not for it to be erotic. Either naked or near naked can be erotic if filmed properly but the point is that it should be up to the filmmakers not the DCMS.
"Luckily you lot r NOT representative of the thousands of subcribers who sign up year after year to TVX", I fear we are all very much representative of the thousands who sign up for when it gets hotter after encryption.
It would be a shame if you left the forum as its good to hear a variety of viewpoints. In fact it would be nice to hear a few more view points, especially the viewpoint of TVX and all the other adult service broadcasters concerning hardcore. The silence is deafening.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Mon May 03, 2004 8:55 pm
by vila
Well said Cosine! I don't think it could have been put better.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 5:20 am
by David Lever
My Shows on TVX: Here goes, I'm battening down the hatches waiting for the onslaught of abuse and vitriol:
Teresa Scott Unleashed
Janes World
Dildo Dan
Badfellas
Ibiza Uncut
Whats Your Fetish
UK Swingers
Cock Crazy
Anal Teens (Dirty Dog)
All New Anal Teens (Debbie Tomlin)
Roasted
Slut Zone
Eurochicks
I think thats it.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 5:40 am
by David Lever
I think TVX like to have real women in their shows, ie women you might actually meet. You say the other side has all the beautiful women, well not from my experience. Anyway what do you call "beautiful", don't tell me, in an ideal world you'd clone for example Angel Long, (I like her too by the way) and make her the star of every TV show that is broadcast, even doing Lesbian scenes with herself!
I take it the entries for top female performer are what this forum considers beautiful? Well I agree they are all beautiful.
But this shows just how out of touch you all are, men in the outside world like all shapes and all sizes, and they particularly like women who they think they could actually get off with in real life, this makes the fantasy for them when watching porn. My job is to bring these women through to the viewer, expose their personalities as well as their bodies..............this completes the fantasy for the viewer.
I havnt watched TAC for some time, but I thought the gold standard plot for their shows was to put a lad on some form of vehicular transport,be it double decker bus,tandem, limo etc and pretend to pick up girls then shag them and last time I saw Playboy, it was so soft focus I thought my specs had given out, anyway it seemed to be packed with dyed blonde and silicone, and pony- tailed, body builders all pretending they are enjoying sex
Maybe I'm out of date?
But unlike my opponents on this forum, I respect your're right to enjoy this stuff without abuse.
By the way the reason that no one from the Adult stations comes on this forum, is that they are far too busy making money for such trivia.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 7:49 am
by Cornish Chris
I have watched TVX, TAC & Playboy TV over the years, mainly to gauge what has been done, what is succesful, and what needs to be done to fill the gaps. I occasionally even get the camcorder out myself so see it as business research...lol.
What is evident is that there is both good and absolute rubbish liberally scattered amonst all 3 channels.
Teresa Scott Unleashed
Janes World
Extreme Close Up
Some of the Anna Span, Pumpkin Films, and without doubt the Viv Thomas productions are well produced and erotically filmed even in the softcore versions.
Randy & Stan Ride Again
Neil Down
and all the other cheeky chappies who imagine that they are the stars of the scene and not the poor unfortunate lovlies who have to endure their devistating reparte are without doubt the worst type of programming.
Also the programming that attempts to shock "Icky Sticky Mucky Mingers" is a prime example, certainly does not rate as a classic.
At the end of the day, there are only a limited number of senarios you can use to set up a scene, then you are confined to a strict budget cos all the channels expect to pay peanuts (they already know were monkeys). Then you have to salvage enough softcore to edit together 20 minutes.
Its not easy, but being allowed to film up to R18 would be a hell of a lot easier.
My suggestion to all the disgruntled TAC/TVX subscribers would be, vote with your feet and cancel your subscriptions, write to the channels involved and tell them how you feel.
Support Paul Taverner @ Ofwatch, who I am sure would appreciate your feedback.
CC.
Ps. I used to love the Electric Blue series, totally softcore but well produced and featuring some absolute stunners...shame about that numpty who used to act the goat, who ended up as a kiddies presenter.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 12:58 pm
by Heathray
David,
No offence but when I watch I want to see the type of women I am highly unlikely to meet! I doubt FHM or Loaded would shift 500000 copies month showing ugly, tattooed, slappers as per TVX.
Men lust after Kirsty Gallacher, Aria Giovanni, Jo Guest, Jennifer Ellison and Rachel Stevens. All sexy and beautiful.
I would much rather watch a straight sex scene between 2 gorgeous girls than 3 or 4 blokes treating a rough arsed girl like a piece of meat.
As for Roasted pretty poor taste after the current football scandals! Last night's show featured a large amount of mens arses. Are you after the uphill skier market?
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 1:48 pm
by David Lever
No offence taken, but thank God you're not running a TV company, typical armchair critic, cant contribute anything new, novel or original, just good at shouting abuse at people.
I think "Roasted" is what some of us would call "ironic" humour, obviously u don't geddit, geddit?
Depressing that you THINK that you speak on behalf of MEN, so every woman who doesn't look like the one's you mentioned is "Rough"? So no men lust after normal looking women.
Luckily for me, you seem to mirror the directorial views of many producers of porn, ie film the same old stereotypes again and again.
I suggest that as you are so sure of what "Men" want, you get yourself a Hawaian shirt, big cigar and a camcorder and start filming................I'm already trembling in my boots!
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 2:45 pm
by littlenicky
I wouldnt subscribe to any of the channels that have been mentioned.
Who needs to when there are so many cheap copied dvd's available on the internet which you can watch anytime of the day or night.
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 3:05 pm
by mk13
@ david,
What you got to realise is that the public now want more explict material than you are currently showing, this is not fictional it's a fact! Public research by the BBFC and the ITC found that general public are in favour of more explict material thus we now have R18 videoworks. This is not a criticism of your channel as we are all aware of the constraints currently stopping you from broadcasting R18. But with OFCOM now in charge of content censorship in the UK, and with public consulations due this summer on a new content code, we will be more than likely allowed to veiw R18 on satellite by the end of the year. So will your channel start making the changes now to accommodate for public opinion
Regards
Mark
Re: Playboy tv
Posted: Tue May 04, 2004 3:15 pm
by webmong
There would be no porn business if everyone thought the same as yourself.