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"I take it the ones that bitch are the ones that are at the bottom of the pile and jealous of those that got in with it and made something for themselves".

A couple of points. I don't think former Tory Prime Minister, Harold MacMillan who described Thatcher's privatisation programme as "selling off the family silver" and lambasted her for calling the miners the "enemy within" could be described as "bottom of the pile"

Secondly what Cameron and the Tories have completely glossed over and I suspect you have forgotten, is that it was the Tory party itself that decided Thatcher had lost the plot and knifed her in the back to get rid of her.

Not exactly an endorsement of "Thatcher was rewarded for her great work"

max_tranmere wrote:

> The Poll Tax was very unfair, I specifically remember that in
> the borough of Westminster in London (and 'Westminster' is not
> just that area of London but a huge borough which covers many
> districts and makes up about half of central London) the Poll
> Tax was ?36.00 per person. You could live in a mansion in one
> of Westminster's milllionaire districts like St Johns Wood and
> a rich couple paid ?72.00 between them - that's not even ?1.50
> a week. A poor area of east London (in the borough of Haringey
> or somewhere similar) had to pay something like ?500 per head,
> a grand for a couple who lived in a modest flat somewhere. It
> was said by many that for a Duke and a dustman to pay the same
> was not right - in reality it was regulalry the case that the
> dustman paid 15 times more than the Duke did! Extremely unfair.

But that is often down to the local council (who set the rate) and with the council tax that is still the same. A friend lived in Wandsworth and paid a ridiculously low council tax. I lived in an outer and poorer borough and paid much more than her. If the local council (Haringey, for example) cannot balance its books that is not the fault of the duke.

If, say, the council tax is ?100 a month and you live alone you get a 25% discount so you pay ?75. A family of four adults living next door pay the equivalent of ?25 each. How is that fair? They are using four times the services as you yet you are paying three times as much.

And as the duke probably sent his kids to a fee-paying school and has private healthcare, he is still paying for at least two "services" that he never uses.

Oi ! I'm a fuckin ginger knob so watch it ! It's far worse than being black sometimes.

Classic embodiment of the Thatcherite mindset immediately assumes anyone who thinks what happened was wrong its because they are at the "bottom"

That turn of phrase says a lot about how you consider other people.

And by not being "in it" do you mean being given free money from that council house others paid for?

Why would you want someone crying crocodile tears at her funeral? Surely it is better to not to be a hypocrite and stay away?

I think he is showing respect for the family by keeping away and being silent.

Remember, anyone who doesn't agree that The Thatch was the best Prime Minister this country ever had, is one of "the enemy within".

This makes me proud to be a fully paid-up member of that contingent.

Apparently Saturday is going to be the day of demo's in London.

Maggie, Maggie, Maggie,

Dead, Dead, Dead.

Part of the current problem is world wide and we have no control over. The second is the mess the Labour Party left us with

Unlike Tony Blair who would go to the opening of an envelope if he felt he could be seen in the press