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you don't have an agenda..now you do..make your mind up.

The final tally has just come in

Those who think no one is to blame or should be held accountable for the attacks...........everyone minus one

Those who want to see Tony Blair hung drawn & Quartered for any reason

1

Whatever the motive,its certainly repeating itself adnauseum

Agreeing to disagree is so much simpler

cheers
B....OZ

Okay, let's get this straight in the world according to Shiola:

Blair is to blame for the atrocities because the security services didn't detect the conspiracy being run by a terrorist cell in Britain.

Given the screams of indignation from many of us about our civil liberties being stomped on with the updated anti-terrorism bill, the proposed introduction of ID cards, and a huge rise in bugging orders, he feels that a plot involving small numbers of dedicated nutters should have been spotted. Just how exactly? Is there an intelligence agent secreted in the wallspace in every home in the land? Have those wonderful boffins at Q division come up with an ingenious new transceiver that can be fitted into a sugar cube and will be swallowed by every man, woman and child in the UK, thus allowing GCHQ to monitor every conversation?

Or does he perhaps believe that Tone is omnipotent, capable of being everywhere at once, all seeing and all knowing?

If you'd bothered to read any of the other contributions here, you'd have seen someone cite the problem Israel---a much more security alert and intelligence-driven nation---has stopping attacks on its citizens. If they can't stop the lunatics attacking soft targets, how the hell can we?

Your much quoted Spanish situation is different because the Spanish government tried to save its political skin by saying that Eta carried out the attacks in Madrid. For that contemptible lie, it paid the price at the polls. As yet, we don't know who carried out the London attacks, though an al Qaida affiliate is most likely. Let's just find out for certain as soon as we can, and save the finger pointing for another day.

And if you think these things are simple, and easy to deal with, remember Timothy McVeigh.

Now please go into a darkened room with your Tony Blair voodoo doll, a set of nice, shiny, new pins, and leave the rest of us alone. Call it a fault, but Thursday's events upset me for some reason.

Amen to that

cheers
B....OZ

very well said carac!!

just had a very worrying conversation with the son of my newsagent who is asian. he said, and i quote:" kill all the fucking muslims in this country, it's all their fault and they are dirty, lying scum of the earth". frightens me to think this is the view of a person who i always believed was a pleasant, well adjusted young man.
just shows how an atrocity like this opens people up to show their true feelings and beliefs, and how frightening and offensive some of these people really are!

The vast majority of Muslims in this country are decent people that do not deserved to be tarred with the same brush. I can see a return to the 70s when decent Irish people here were beaten up for their Irish accents as 'they must be linked with IRA'
The first action we must take is to round up all the suspects that have been watched by MI5 for sometime, and start interrogation. And as for those nutters who preach their hate on the streets of North London, get them rounded up too.........although Im sure they are pretty quiet these past few days

while i understand that many people in the country often have mixed feelings about london, it's the city that i love and ken livingstone best summed up for me both the degeneracy of those behind these attacks and the reasons why i won't be leaving for anywhere else in a hurry:

"This was not a terrorist attack against the mighty and the powerful. It was not aimed at Presidents or Prime Ministers. It was aimed at ordinary, working-class Londoners, black and white, Muslim and Christian, Hindu and Jew, young and old. It was an indiscriminate attempt to slaughter, irrespective of any considerations for age, for class, for religion, or whatever.

In the days that follow look at our airports, look at our sea ports and look at our railway stations and, even after your cowardly attack, you will see that people from the rest of Britain, people from around the world will arrive in London to become Londoners and to fulfil their dreams and achieve their potential.

They choose to come to London, as so many have come before because they come to be free, they come to live the life they choose, they come to be able to be themselves. They flee you because you tell them how they should live. They don't want that and nothing you do, however many of us you kill, will stop that flight to our city where freedom is strong and where people can live in harmony with one another. Whatever you do, however many you kill, you will fail."