Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and finish
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B.X.
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and fin
i would imagine there is a number of girls who possibly get off on the idea of being a porn star, but find reality to be lacking. i'm sure a number of people have met this type. and for certain others, prostitution pays better.
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Pianaman
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and finish
check out some of LouLou's work on the explicite site (john Roots site) for an example of a "female led" gonzo style (in her excellent Orgasmus 1 and Orgasmus 2 movies)
I agree with Magoo - its refreshingly honest to hear it stated so well - but I think its time for a change - its not just the women who are being debased and cheapened by the sort of porn produced by the likes of Max Hardcore - its the viewer as well
I agree with Magoo - its refreshingly honest to hear it stated so well - but I think its time for a change - its not just the women who are being debased and cheapened by the sort of porn produced by the likes of Max Hardcore - its the viewer as well
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cp
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and fin
True, but in porn they get to go with better looking guys...imagine some of the clients a pro has to face...
More importantly the guys in adult films are mostly spot on with attitude and so on. An ex gf (this was some time agao and in Denmark) did alittle porn at one stage and she said it was genuinely a thrill and fun, but wanted to leave it at that, mainly to keep exposure down. She had a swinger outlook on life which helps of course
A lot also depends on the setting, production values and ambience of the set.
Would be interesting to hear from perfomers and what they think
More importantly the guys in adult films are mostly spot on with attitude and so on. An ex gf (this was some time agao and in Denmark) did alittle porn at one stage and she said it was genuinely a thrill and fun, but wanted to leave it at that, mainly to keep exposure down. She had a swinger outlook on life which helps of course
A lot also depends on the setting, production values and ambience of the set.
Would be interesting to hear from perfomers and what they think
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Phil McC
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With only about 10 real producers and 20 reliable girls what do you expect Hollywood. The good girls work all the time look at Layla for eg (and she is a mate of mine) she works her ass off like all the good girls I know (you know who girls) I work every day on production editing or design. Still I don't drive a taxi or its not my part time job.
The UK industry is still 20 years behind Europe/USA but their should be no shame in that as long as you are one of the ones going forward.
See you at the plus on my stand G4. Other producers have to come out the cuboard and do the shows and the punters need to make the big effort and go, guys like Shaun walk on broken glass for a picture of a porn stars gusset, these are the guys who will build the industy, they will buy the products and join the fan clubs. They deserve the respect.
Respect to the punters,
Phil McC
The UK industry is still 20 years behind Europe/USA but their should be no shame in that as long as you are one of the ones going forward.
See you at the plus on my stand G4. Other producers have to come out the cuboard and do the shows and the punters need to make the big effort and go, guys like Shaun walk on broken glass for a picture of a porn stars gusset, these are the guys who will build the industy, they will buy the products and join the fan clubs. They deserve the respect.
Respect to the punters,
Phil McC
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jj
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and fin
......but where would you be if all girls had 'standards and limits' that completely excluded porn of any stripe?
Wouldn't you be out of business rather rapidly?
Wouldn't you be out of business rather rapidly?
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magoo
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and fin
Girls would still be doing it anyway even if was beneath thier standards because money has a knack of persuading people. What we were discussing was wether or not they enjoy it or not.
The general consensus seems to be that most girls dont enjoy it. Its just a job. They get paid to pretend to enjoy it and even if they post on forums to say how much they enjoy it how do we know that thats not just hype to get them a following of fans and therefor get them more work.
I respect all the girls in the industry because I would not want to do their job. Getting sprayed with old mens spunk and having to shag Belgians with huge feet. Horrible.
The main gripe I have is with these "new men" sensitive caring porn viewers who refuse to accept that they pay to see girls endure an unpleasant expierence. So they go into a state of denial and tell themselves that women actually enjoy being DPd and sprayed with spunk. Why cant they be honest and come to terms with the predatory nature of male sexuality and say "I couldnt give a fuck if that model is having a bad time because I paid for this film and I am going to enjoy it regardless". Lets face it all of us punters are part of the reason these girls have a bad time of things because without us the Nicky Maybanks of this world wouldnt be enduring the torment of doing something they dont want to be doing.
It reminds me of coke fiends who like to try and reconcile their habit with their hippy views by kidding themselves they are helping out Bolivian Coca farmers because they are too politically correct to admitt to supporting an industry that forces women to risk their lives smuggling condoms of coke in their stomachs and generally shits on people. Twats.
The above is an extreme comparison but my point is if you like buying porn then dont bleat on about exploitation and Max Hardcore etc. Just come to terms with the fact that you pay for the industry and if some poor girl has a bad time you are part of that.
The general consensus seems to be that most girls dont enjoy it. Its just a job. They get paid to pretend to enjoy it and even if they post on forums to say how much they enjoy it how do we know that thats not just hype to get them a following of fans and therefor get them more work.
I respect all the girls in the industry because I would not want to do their job. Getting sprayed with old mens spunk and having to shag Belgians with huge feet. Horrible.
The main gripe I have is with these "new men" sensitive caring porn viewers who refuse to accept that they pay to see girls endure an unpleasant expierence. So they go into a state of denial and tell themselves that women actually enjoy being DPd and sprayed with spunk. Why cant they be honest and come to terms with the predatory nature of male sexuality and say "I couldnt give a fuck if that model is having a bad time because I paid for this film and I am going to enjoy it regardless". Lets face it all of us punters are part of the reason these girls have a bad time of things because without us the Nicky Maybanks of this world wouldnt be enduring the torment of doing something they dont want to be doing.
It reminds me of coke fiends who like to try and reconcile their habit with their hippy views by kidding themselves they are helping out Bolivian Coca farmers because they are too politically correct to admitt to supporting an industry that forces women to risk their lives smuggling condoms of coke in their stomachs and generally shits on people. Twats.
The above is an extreme comparison but my point is if you like buying porn then dont bleat on about exploitation and Max Hardcore etc. Just come to terms with the fact that you pay for the industry and if some poor girl has a bad time you are part of that.
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magoo
For JJ
Please dont think my rant was aimed at you.
Having said that. A lot of the other posters said I was speaking sense in my original post. You avoided the issue and indulged in a spot of our favourite hobby of Dibble baiting instead.
Tell me do these tales of girls not enjoying it make you feel uncomfortable with your porn habit? Be like me and say "who cares" as long as its a stroke-worthy scene. If guys are really worried then all they have to do is stop buying it instead of falsley claiming the girls do it for fun and all love it up both holes.
BTW I sent you a big parcel today. Get up for postie in the morning he will need a signature.
Having said that. A lot of the other posters said I was speaking sense in my original post. You avoided the issue and indulged in a spot of our favourite hobby of Dibble baiting instead.
Tell me do these tales of girls not enjoying it make you feel uncomfortable with your porn habit? Be like me and say "who cares" as long as its a stroke-worthy scene. If guys are really worried then all they have to do is stop buying it instead of falsley claiming the girls do it for fun and all love it up both holes.
BTW I sent you a big parcel today. Get up for postie in the morning he will need a signature.
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Peter
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and finish
Money doesn't seem to have been mentioned.
I suspect the girls may have not been paid or the promised opportunities /income did no crystallize.
I like to see British Girls and so do watch Bendover but I find a lot of the banter unnerving especially in relation to the youthfulness and virginity of the performers and would like to see more acting based stuff and decent storyline, dialogue, dress, music from British Producers.
Bendover obviously has groomed the girls in camera skills and some of the repeat performers eg Rebekah do blossom. We also have to thank him for providing the launchpad for our stars - Nici, Layla, Rebekah etc.
I just wish he would go forward with change rather than the same tired format.
I suspect the girls may have not been paid or the promised opportunities /income did no crystallize.
I like to see British Girls and so do watch Bendover but I find a lot of the banter unnerving especially in relation to the youthfulness and virginity of the performers and would like to see more acting based stuff and decent storyline, dialogue, dress, music from British Producers.
Bendover obviously has groomed the girls in camera skills and some of the repeat performers eg Rebekah do blossom. We also have to thank him for providing the launchpad for our stars - Nici, Layla, Rebekah etc.
I just wish he would go forward with change rather than the same tired format.
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jj
Re: Why is it most female stars do 1 shoot and fin
I don't disagree with the general argument about acting vs. enjoyment- I'd guess the ratio would be about 99 to 1.
I was trying to point up the silliness of OD's argument about female adult performers having 'standards'.......in the case of Ms Maybanks the result was a most unedifying spectacle. She must have needed the money very badly to overcome her obvious revulsion.
Generally, if a girl is an insufficiently good actress (or perhaps just too honest) to convey a spurious sense of enjoyment, the whole thing falls down. Most punters can spot a fake a mile off: this of course is one reason why gonzo is so popular- the likelihood of a girl being 'up for it' in such a production is much higher than in a big studio job.
Verisimilitude, dear boy.........
I was trying to point up the silliness of OD's argument about female adult performers having 'standards'.......in the case of Ms Maybanks the result was a most unedifying spectacle. She must have needed the money very badly to overcome her obvious revulsion.
Generally, if a girl is an insufficiently good actress (or perhaps just too honest) to convey a spurious sense of enjoyment, the whole thing falls down. Most punters can spot a fake a mile off: this of course is one reason why gonzo is so popular- the likelihood of a girl being 'up for it' in such a production is much higher than in a big studio job.
Verisimilitude, dear boy.........
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jj
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I'm sorry, I'm an addict: I will shortly be appearing on 'Trisha' to take flak from the Great Unwashed about my Dibble-baiting habit.........
See below re your main point: the reason why I think we need to 'believe' the scene is partly that such issues as you've raised can then be neatly disposed of by a very small suspension of disbelief.
TIA for the Red X parcel- may be Mon before I can collect.
See below re your main point: the reason why I think we need to 'believe' the scene is partly that such issues as you've raised can then be neatly disposed of by a very small suspension of disbelief.
TIA for the Red X parcel- may be Mon before I can collect.