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Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 1:23 pm
by puretotty
Yep I am with OEJ... even the Xart stuff is out there... people rip it, no sites can use DRM software to protect their content, as people won't sign up to sites that use DRM, Naughty America tried it !
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 2:03 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
UK porn has solidly nailed itself to the chav market. Both the girls and blokes are covered in tattoos, have "hardman" haircuts and basically treat the women like a piece of meat. There is no erotica or class anymore. How many of our stars have mutilated themselves with multiple surgeries to look like freaks? British output is now low cost and aimed at 14 year olds watcing on an Iphone.
I would love to see naturally beauitful girls without tatts, ?3 homemade haircuts and 38dd plastic tits on a size 8 lower body. Where is the UK version of Mark Dorcel or Viv Thomas who have fashion model standard girls? Britain is great at making quality, be it cars, clothes, hifi, planes etc but our porn is British Leyland circa 1972.
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 5:33 pm
by frankthring
Totally agree with Arginald on this one. You have said it all, mate. Right on !
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:00 pm
by puretotty
Don't fear... there's always Fat Man Fuck
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Mon Feb 10, 2014 12:04 am
by videokim
Last time we shot in Blackpool we done it over a 5 day period averaging 2-3 films a day, while we filmed we done webcam shows on 3 AW profiles making ?70 on average per film which we shared 5 ways after taking off the third AW charge.
A couple of evenings we arranged a photo shoot for local photographers who paid ?50 each to take pics of the ladies, we done all the films on content share so we all had material to take home & earned money which covered our shoot,venue & travel costs too.
10-20 dvd sold at ?15 for each film, clips sold on AW & then use the films on the web-sites where they will make money but its the end of the earning cycle as they are then pirated.
The trick for us is to keep new footage off the main sites until its almost ended its cycle...crazy but it works for us.
Most of the stuff we shoot now is with girls off AW or women answering ads we have in shop windows, porn as changed & so must we to survive.
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:33 am
by Arginald Valleywater
In truth we are in a recession so money is tight.
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Tue Feb 11, 2014 12:01 pm
by videokim
Money is tight but not as tight as the people pirating lol!
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:35 am
by denneboom
I'm quite happy with a site where I get a short preview of what I'm going to be paying for. A clear idea of how often the website updates. HD downloads with different options on formats (I prefer MP4s). Downloading NOT streaming. Oh and British performers - and I will pay for that.
I see porn going where I don't want it to because a lot of people don't believe in paying for content and punters are lapping up the Adultwork crap. Any anyone can film themselves on a mobile but I won't pay for that shite.
I don't wanna see a hairy 55 year old bloke with a camera getting his dick sucked by a 20 something in a cheap hotel room and pay per clip to Adultwork for the shitty grainy pixellated flv streams. Or to pay to access one mans private gallery on AW.
Mike John and Vince Voyeur did POV in the US 10 years ago and no one has matched the quality, humour,direction and editing nous ever since.
I pay for quality and choice. 1080 HD quality, someone who knows how to operate a camera and get good shots - well edited professional content. Choice of girls, and choice of formats. Choice to download and store the content and view offline on my smartphone, tablet or my 42" TV.
I fear that there aren't enough people like me willing to pay to help keep the industry running at a level for producers to make a living out of making good quality videos.
Gonzo got big 10/12 years ago but now there is a lot of rubbish out there and some creative people are doing different things Joymii, X-Art, Babes.com and Passion HD have gone in a good direction, and output a high standard.
I pay ?8 a month to Reality Kings and ?25 a month to DDF Network and they provide a large archive of content and some Brit girls too. The updates are regular with something new everyday. Lexi Lowe and Emma Leigh are in Budapest this week shooting with DDF(according to Twitter) and I know that when their scenes and pics get uploaded its going to be high calibre in the best picture quality available plus Denys De Francesco is an excellent photographer.
Its a shame when the product ends up on a torrent site for someone to steal and I can only imagine the frustrations of providers seeing their work ripped off and copied. Free tube porn has no interest no me, the quality is piss poor, I cant stand the adverts and I can't choose which girls I want to see as they are mostly American. I want to see Paige Turnah, Jessica Jensen Bonnie Rose, Satine Spark, Emma Butt, Emma Leigh and Stacey Lacey, and they are not on tube sites.
TV has no interest for me either or any of that live stuff that keeps getting promoted on here. I wouldn't dream of paying for it and seeing a girl with a phone stuck to her ear while elevator music plays and premium numbers roll across the screen is a bad joke. Adultwork and Live TV sadly seems to be where the models want to be these days.
Re: Question for all you punters or fellow producers !
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:37 pm
by videokim
Expensive glossy porn flooded the internet when it started pushing down prices making it hard to make a living, unlike the US we have to many restrictions & barriers to warrant spending the money like the Americans when we can't recoup the fee's.
I have regular customers that have had my films since the VHS days & now they get them not only on DVD or download but also Blu Ray 25-50gb discs or HD 1080i MPEG4, for the genuine ones we bend over backwards but the internet & the recession as killed off porn as we knew it almost 20 years ago.
If the UK internet somehow stopped porn overnight it might be a good thing as the harder it is to get porn the better price we can get for it, we may have lived in fear of dawn raids once when it was illegal but you could flog a VHS tape for ?35 then compared to the give away prices of downloads & DVD now.
Different countries & far far different rules stop us competing with Europe & the US on an even basis.