Re: Time for a change ?
Posted: Thu Jun 14, 2001 11:37 pm
Phil McCavity wrote:
>
> One thing I have to establish is the site and forum only for
> Hard Core models.
It's really only for hard core, though there are some soft-ish titles listed. The job of keeping track is big enough as it is.
> Maybe
> the UK has be flung into this thirst for ultimate hard-core
> so suddenly the genuine "what turns us on" is being missed.
I agree that one of the things absent from hard core videos (wherever they are made) is "what turns us on" - if I can interpret that as eroticism. I think you used the phrase 'will she won't she' in a post some time ago. I think this fits in here. I'd call it erotic tension or erotic situation. There's nothing wrong with well-shot, well-directed hard core sex, but personally I'd like to see some erotic tension as well - and I don't mean big budget 'erotic thrillers' pretending to be hard core versions of Die Hard or similar. They could be a series of short unrelated scenes but with an erotic edge and including the seduction and build up and then going on to the hard core. Very few porn films have done this. For example, I like gang bang films, but what is almost always absent is the thrill of seing how such an event could actually develop - the 'will she, won't she' part. Some of the most erotic scenes I've seen have been in soft core and sometimes fairly mainstream films, e.g. Rebecca de Mornay and Tom Cruise on the subway in Risky Business, that plump-ish Aussie girl and a bloke on the top deck of a bus in Hong Kong in Felicity, a few scenes from Emmannuelle and Nine and a Half Weeks - if only the boring bits of those could have been replaced with hard core! - and a few seconds of 10 where Bo Derek tells Dudley Moore what she likes to do to the accompaniment of Ravel's Bolero. This sort of scene happens probably in less than 1% of porn films - Britt Morgan being used as the stake in a game of poker in Queen of Hearts springs to mind, as does the first scene in Gang Bang girl 15 (unfortunately not the Nici Sterling scene though that is good for other reasons) and there are a few others, but they are rare.
I prefer porn to stimulate an erection via the brain and the imagination, though I don't deny that it still works by the direct route too.
>
> One thing I have to establish is the site and forum only for
> Hard Core models.
It's really only for hard core, though there are some soft-ish titles listed. The job of keeping track is big enough as it is.
> Maybe
> the UK has be flung into this thirst for ultimate hard-core
> so suddenly the genuine "what turns us on" is being missed.
I agree that one of the things absent from hard core videos (wherever they are made) is "what turns us on" - if I can interpret that as eroticism. I think you used the phrase 'will she won't she' in a post some time ago. I think this fits in here. I'd call it erotic tension or erotic situation. There's nothing wrong with well-shot, well-directed hard core sex, but personally I'd like to see some erotic tension as well - and I don't mean big budget 'erotic thrillers' pretending to be hard core versions of Die Hard or similar. They could be a series of short unrelated scenes but with an erotic edge and including the seduction and build up and then going on to the hard core. Very few porn films have done this. For example, I like gang bang films, but what is almost always absent is the thrill of seing how such an event could actually develop - the 'will she, won't she' part. Some of the most erotic scenes I've seen have been in soft core and sometimes fairly mainstream films, e.g. Rebecca de Mornay and Tom Cruise on the subway in Risky Business, that plump-ish Aussie girl and a bloke on the top deck of a bus in Hong Kong in Felicity, a few scenes from Emmannuelle and Nine and a Half Weeks - if only the boring bits of those could have been replaced with hard core! - and a few seconds of 10 where Bo Derek tells Dudley Moore what she likes to do to the accompaniment of Ravel's Bolero. This sort of scene happens probably in less than 1% of porn films - Britt Morgan being used as the stake in a game of poker in Queen of Hearts springs to mind, as does the first scene in Gang Bang girl 15 (unfortunately not the Nici Sterling scene though that is good for other reasons) and there are a few others, but they are rare.
I prefer porn to stimulate an erection via the brain and the imagination, though I don't deny that it still works by the direct route too.