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Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:41 pm
by videokim
Both get paid for sex...but one as the excuse of a camera, i get paid myself to have sex in films so i'm no different to my escort friends.
There is good respect between the models & escorts we know & both do a great job, this forum does seem very anti escort & as a large percentage of models do escort its crazy.
You get girls on here that say they are against escorting & turn up advertising on escort sites so no there is no difference...maybe only self denial in some.

Kim x

Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:19 pm
by Harry Hardon
Problem is the line is blurred due to the type of work people do.

When a model / actress only performs with other performers, she can safely say "porn actress.

Where it gets a little unclear is where the model / actress takes part in events / shoot which are open to the general public. Yes it's on camera but guys usually have to pay a fee.

I've had some interesting conversations with models about this in the past as I'm looking for some POV girls, some of those I've seen do the above type of filmed party events but not work with tested amateurs.

Whether they are the same I suppose depends if it's a one off or a regular thing.

Though to be honest, lots of models do use their fame to make an alternative living and no one should judge them.


Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:07 pm
by Benson_Media
"its not just about the law or morals, its about the facts.

prostitutes get paid for sex: fact!

models get paid for the right to use thier image: fact!"

Too simplistic Holly.

It would be more succinct to say both parties get paid for the use/rent of their vaginas or/and anuses.

Fact.

Whether that classifies you, or any other HC model that rents out their vaginas as a prostitute is legally vague. NOT fact.

I could easily say: I performed the fact of butchering my mother in law for video purposes but my heart wasn't really in it. I would probably say this to myself. In a cell.


Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:20 pm
by The Toybox
It's an ill-conceived question, roughly on a par with asking whether a camel is "the same" as a horse. If they were "the same", they'd have the same name.

Of course the two have similarities - they do some of the same jobs some of the time, and they have exactly the same number of legs.

But the difference is that one has a big hump on its back, while the other...




...sorry, my metaphor's collapsed completely now.


Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 4:02 am
by Dylan Devere
good point about being aware of camera angles etc... now it's a discussion and not a slanging match.

you may also consider that a good prostitute HAS to make the guy cum (not too difficult I grant you- they are only men) were as a porn actress only has to look like she has. The actor will come, but when he's told to, not when he's ready to.


Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:25 am
by Daz Savage
The topic that I referred to on the other forum here has to be read to be believed. I am not bothered if porn is the same as - or has similarities to - prostitution... the issue I had was the distinctly abusive nature of the language. I.E. "Pornstar = Common Whore."
A prostitute perhaps (I don't agree myself on that one) however I don't see that derogatory name-calling is anything but unnecessary and unpleasant especially from someone who is a reseller of porn himself. That is hypocrisy because anyone selling prostitutes is a pimp or ponce.
The other thread descended almost into some schoolboyish debate over girls. The kind where they would discuss girls they liked but could never have so they did everything they could to deride and humiliate them.
This thread may still be 'undecided' but at least it's still a debate and not just a place to humiliate women in this business.
It would be nice to see some of these posts placed in the thread I was talking about though because the debate still rages on.


Post your comments HERE please.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 11:00 am
by Daz Savage
NOTE!
This guy still says you are all "Common Whores" and any statement defending another point of view is in his opinion "semantics."
For fuck's sake stand up for yourselves against this hypocrisy. This guy sells your material and then insults you.



Re: Post your comments HERE please.

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:46 pm
by Daz Savage
Perhaps you're right.
I just see it as a kind of bullying - hitting out at someone who may find it difficult to defend themselves. Mix that in with the hypocritical nature of all this and my blood boils.
The two things most likely to make me come-out-swinging are hypocrites and bullies.
They make life a fucking pain for everyone else... and being a typical and old-fashioned British gentleman I will always defend fair-play and support the underdog.
It's what the British are best at.


Re: Is a pornstar the same as a whore... are YOU?

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 1:31 pm
by Holly D
"It would be more succinct to say both parties get paid for the use/rent of their vaginas or/and anuses.

Fact"

Well this is untrue. I have written it a few times but you have obviously misunderstood me previously, so I'll try to write it differently for you.

A prostitute has sex for money or as you put it gets paid for the use/rent of her vaginas or/and anuses. Where as a model does not get paid for sex or get paid for the use/rent of her vaginas or/and anuses. A model has sex for free but is paid for the right to use her image.

I have never ever been paid for sex or to rent out my vagina. I am being paid to be filmed and to help make a product where as a prostitute is being paid to make her client cum.