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Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:30 pm
by Sam Slater
Lol.........
The excuses people come up with are unbelievable.
Men want bareback sex..........partner, prostitute, escort, whatever. You stack shelves, you're a bricklayer, bank manager, solicitor, judge, whatever........you want bareback sex........and some girls provide it.
Don't give me no bollox about..........'oh it's only the street girls, and 'poor punters'...........'we 'top of the range' punters/escorts come with free insurance for a year.
I know it's hard to accept...........I mean if you're in the industry and reading this, you've probably paid for an escort, been an escort, or got a friend who's an escort...........so you make excuses and delude yourselves that it's 'safe'.
What's funny is that if a girl does a weeks porn with untested guys in Hungary, no fucker would want to work with her, even if she says she used a condom, and they'd shun her, calling her irresponsible; yet if an escort says she's had sex with her punters.............well............that's all hunky-dory!
I've said it once, and I'll say it again.............if you're going to accept escorting, then scrap certificates of health, because they are WORTHLESS. It doesn't matter how many free tests Bluebird offer, once you've screwed a punter in a hotel room, the test means nothing on set.
I wish people would wake up.
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:48 pm
by porngirlsxrated
Sam Slater wrote:
> Lol.........
>
> The excuses people come up with are unbelievable.
>
> Men want bareback sex..........partner, prostitute, escort,
> whatever. You stack shelves, you're a bricklayer, bank manager,
> solicitor, judge, whatever........you want bareback
> sex........and some girls provide it.
>
> Don't give me no bollox about..........'oh it's only the street
> girls, and 'poor punters'...........'we 'top of the range'
> punters/escorts come with free insurance for a year.
>
> I know it's hard to accept...........I mean if you're in the
> industry and reading this, you've probably paid for an escort,
> been an escort, or got a friend who's an escort...........so
> you make excuses and delude yourselves that it's 'safe'.
>
Sam
I am a person who deals with facts and not excuses
The image of the escort industry you are portraying is not an accurate one
Please could you tell me your experiences that have led you to have this opinion?
Do you own an escort agency, have you worked as an escort for an escort agency, have you hired the services of an escort?
Or is your opinion simply formed on the assumption that all men want bareback sex
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 7:58 pm
by Sam Slater
pornxrated,
Tell me....
What do you know of running escort agencies, or the escorting world?
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:06 pm
by porngirlsxrated
Sam Slater wrote:
> pornxrated,
>
> Tell me....
>
> What do you know of running escort agencies, or the escorting
> world?
>
>
I dated the owner of an escort agency for over 5 years and in that time I got to know the industry very well
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:19 pm
by Sam Slater
Thank you.
Not very impartial then are you? The only people that would gain from pornstars becoming escorts, are the punters, the escorts, and their agents. I'm none of those three, nor in the industry, so have nothing to gain whatever happens. I've no hidden agenda unlike some.
I'm not impolite however so will answer your questions.
Nope, no experience with escorting really, but do work in a GUM clinic as part of my training day.
Drug users and immigrants from certain continents aside.......prostitution and it's punters are classed as 'high risk' accounting for over 50% of patients treated. That 50% in reality is way higher due to people lying on their forms. (it's always cooler to say you got herpes from pulling a bird in a club, than stating you paid for it).
High class married businessmen pay street girls as often as high class escorts.......believe me. You would seem that it defies logic, but I guess successful businessmen are only successful due to being prudent in spending. Street girls are usually cheaper........either that or they get a kick out of the..........commoner girls.
I mean, George Michael & Hugh Grant are decent examples.....
As for 'bareback' preference...........
Yeah.....been a man 31 years now. I prefer bareback.......don't we all?
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:49 pm
by Snake Diamond
Sam Slater wrote:
> ...
> Less escorting, will mean less risk; less risk means less
> infections, and less infections means less need to forge your
> own tests. It also means less cancellations, which mean less
> time off for models (they gain financially) and less cancelled
> shoots and lost deposits, meaning producers gain financially.
> Everybody's happy(er).
Here here, too true.
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 8:58 pm
by Snake Diamond
keiran_lee wrote:
> ...
> "Do Bluebird book girls that escort on a regular basis?"
> What producers don't???
I don't know that part of the Industry that well, so I can't say, but they should not, in an ideal situation.
> Theres a few girls that work in the porn that also do escort
> work??? And its all part of the sex industry right????
Yes, from what has been said, & seen on their website. However, FUCK NO, the general Sex Industry is NOT the same as the Porn Industry.
> Sex sells....
Yes it does.
> If its being filmed or not its the sex industry...
Maybe part of the Sex Industry to some degree, but you CANNOT say it's the same thing.
Sam Slater wrote:
> Working bareback doing 'double anal trannie porn' in Brazil is
> part of the sex industry, but would you do a scene alongside a
> guy/girl fresh off the plane doing that?
Who in their right mind would want to have sex with some1, who's just fucked some1 in 1 of the HIGHEST RISK parts of the planet, no matter whether it's Sex Industry, or Porn Industry???
> While escorting may be part of the sex industry, it isn't part
> of the porn industry.
Or, at least it shouldn't be.
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:04 pm
by porngirlsxrated
Sam Slater wrote:
>
> Yeah.....been a man 31 years now. I prefer bareback.......don't
> we all?
>
>
I am as impartial as you are
I have never earned any income from the escort industry or currently have any association with the escort industry
You may not have a hidden agenda, but I would question if you are well informed
You say ??High class married businessmen pay street girls as often as high class escorts? ? but if you have no experience of the escort industry how do you know this?
Street prostitution and escorting don?t mix and the motivations for being involved with them are worlds apart
I won?t argue against the statistics you quote, but I would argue that most of the prostitutes and clients that visit your clinic would be involved with certain types of prostitution (street walkers, massage parlours, etc)
I am also a man I like bareback sex, but most of all I like safe sex
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:13 pm
by Snake Diamond
Oh for FUCK's sake...
I have just finished looking on Adult Work's website, & I have found at least 3 people who are supposedly still working in the Porn Industry, who have accounts here on BGAFD, who have posted here in the last week.
What did I see on their Adult Work Profile, THEY OFFER ESCORTING, NO, not for ?350.00 or more, bout ?80.00 upto about ?140.00 for the entire evening, overnight was at a higher rate though.
These people are supposed to be performers, & they are doing escorting as well, 1 of them stated they might consider bareback, for the right client.
They were NOT offering High Class Escorting to High Class clientelle, just to any1 who is asking.
P.S. I will NOT name & shame, as the guidelines of BGAFD, or even via Email. But if your wanting to know, do the checks yourself, just go searching the Adult Work website, & see what/who you find out for yourself.
Re: Testing Rumours
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 9:16 pm
by Sam Slater
[quote]You say ??High class married businessmen pay street girls as often as high class escorts? ? but if you have no experience of the escort industry how do you know this?[/quote]
Being the partner of someone running an escort agency, tells you nothing about the escorts/punter STD history, so I don't see your point in questioning my experience.
More partners equals a greater risk. If the porn industry wants to minimise risk, start with minimising escorts and people who forge certificates. Both are irresponsible.