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I whole heartedly believe that legalization for our industry is a bad thing.
As it becomes legal...

1) The more Johny-come-latelys enter our industry. Suddenly everyone is a pornographer

2) The quality and professionalism of the performer goes down.

3) The rates performers get paid goes down.

4) Too many performers enter our industry and the risk of aids goes up.

5) Goverment now starts to tell us what we can and can't make. IE: Remember the film Taboo? It's now ilegal in the USA because it shows incest.

6) The product was superiour and didn't flood the market.

If I understand you correctly:

1) No newcomers, it is now a closed shop.
2) Quality etc decreases! How?
3) Rates decrease - on what basis?
4) The number of performers somehow affects standard health criteria!
5) ?
6) Flood the market!

Legalisation does not necessarily mean legislation with its attendant beuracracy. What we do now is legal, i.e. production, performance etc. It is distribution and sales that are the issue.

marcusallen wrote:

> If I understand you correctly:
>
> 1) No newcomers, it is now a closed shop.
> 2) Quality etc decreases! How?
> 3) Rates decrease - on what basis?
> 4) The number of performers somehow affects standard health
> criteria!
> 5) ?
> 6) Flood the market!
>
> Legalisation does not necessarily mean legislation with its
> attendant beuracracy. What we do now is legal, i.e. production,
> performance etc. It is distribution and sales that are the
> issue.


You're not understanding it at all. And I don't expect you to. The UK really doesn't have an industry compared to North America. So, my apologies but our perspectives are completely different.

But I will try to explain.

1) Not a closed shop. But only the people that are really serious do it. With less performers you better performances and actual stars. Not just "performers." And on that note, the 10-buck-Johns disappear considerably.

2) The average amount spent on a porn today is less than $10k usd. It's shot on a 3 chip camera and can be filme in a day. Within a week it's ready to be placed on the store shelf. In the past 1/2 million USD was spent on some films. But the average was about $100k. And less than 600 films were made a year. The current estimate is that between 50-100 are made in Los Angeles each day.

3) Simple math. Girls in the early 80s made about a $1,000 each day. Now the average is considerably less.

4) Hundreds of girls enter and leave the industry each month. It's hard keeping track. In the past we knew each other and less risk of stuff being brought into our industry occurred. (Note: Every disease in our industry has been traced to an outside source. IE: Someone that wasn't porn talent gave it to someone that was)

5) Once it became Legal there were rules and guidlines that prevent us from making certain product. Just look at the UK rules!!! (I don't think I'm going to bother distributing here. ) In the past it was ALL ilegal. So if I wanted to fist a girl's arse and have her pee on person. I could because it didn't matter how "Lite or vanilla" I made it. As far as the cops were concerned I was already breaking the law. I might as well have her fuck the midget and call it her son.

6) The market is flooded with crap content. Because there is relatively NO risk of going to jail... Every 10-buck-john with a video camera and a handful of webdesign skills is dumping stuff on the market.

Sorry luv,
I find the justification of your remarks to be just that.
I agree that UK & US are totally different so why make the comments in the first place? Brit producers do the best they can with what they have. Some love it, some hate it. Same thing with US product.

You can please all the people some of the time
You can please some of the people all the time
You cannot please everyone.
(Paraphrased, but no doubt you get the message).

I shall now resume my weighty deliberations with my partner - the Rt.Hon J.Walker, Esq.

marcusallen wrote:

> Sorry luv,
> I find the justification of your remarks to be just that.
> I agree that UK & US are totally different so why make the
> comments in the first place? Brit producers do the best they
> can with what they have. Some love it, some hate it. Same
> thing with US product.
>
> You can please all the people some of the time
> You can please some of the people all the time
> You cannot please everyone.
> (Paraphrased, but no doubt you get the message).
>
> I shall now resume my weighty deliberations with my partner -
> the Rt.Hon J.Walker, Esq.

Well in my defense.... (And I may end up a bit long winded here)

As much as there are differences. There are a ton of simularities between the UK and USA industries. Some of it cultural attitudes and some of it based on who the players are.

I'm going to do a story on the UKhardcore but I'm not sure how good it will be becaue mostly it will be based on my experiences and the people I interact with.

On that note....

I've attempted to keep an open mind about how things are done here. And I try to place things in perspective and see it from the Brit point of view. But I can only do it from the my cultural perspective. And that is neither American nor British.

There are some sayings about Candians and until recently I thought they were bollocks. But looking at how I've handled the UK Jizz-Bizz, it is spot on.

1) If it takes and American 3 minutes to do it will take a Canadian 30 seconds. And unlike the American they won't brag about it for a month. **Must not include Quebec**

2) Canadians don't break laws. They research it and out how to cunningly work around them.

3) Canada doesn't care about race, sex, colour, religion or sexual orientation. But do something stupid or incompetant and you will be cheerfully beaten to death with a hockey stick.

I wanna be a horny net geek, thats a cool name for a porn site, go with a net video girls type deal and call it Horny Net Geeks and have girls with thick rimmed glasses and stuff. it be cool

It's going to be a blast because I promise to do a strip tease for everyone.

Oh Wow a Striptease ..........Robbie