producers for a pint 2...this time its personal

[Alex L]

Joe

you sound very helpful and there are things that I want to learn, you emailed me with a couple of questions about my site back in September and I replied straight away, and I never heard a thing from you! was there something wrong with your email around that time?

[EMPREX]

Let me get this straight Joe A

You always bash on about helping this producer and helping that person to make money/generate interest and so on what i want to know is since your so in the know in the ways of the internet and video production/distribution and seem to know what customers want then how come your websites are never updated????

At one point i would of considered joining one of your sites but as a customer who spends large amounts on the web for good quality porn why would i when there full of old content and never updated.

For me the proof is in the pudding and if you cant take care of your own projects how can you advise ANYONE!!! about ANYTHING???

just my thoughts...

EMPREX

[one eyed jack]

Archangel wrote:

how about if you WANT to be a producer but are not actually in the industry yet and your looking for a break. Would that be allowed?

In a word: No it wouldnt be allowed. You have to have done something in the way of production first to be considered...otherwise every nosey Tom Dick and Harry will want in under the same pretext.

Look at it this way...a bank manager isnt going to visit you at home unless he knows you are a valued customer worth looking after is he?

That would mean everybody who has ever hired a model for a no model release, private home made video would want to consider himself a producer also and want in....This isnt a producers masterclass going on...What would you stand to gain if you havent done anything yet?

Sorry if this sounds curt, it s not meant to be. Just explaining the reasons behind my thinking so.

[Mad Burt]

its a shame you always seem to think im being negative even when i start my posts by saying that i am not having a go so im probably wasting my time trying to explain but hopefully some of the more rounded readers will see that all i do is point out what is obvious though i do get bashed for doing it. the uk adult producers get together is a great idea and even greater if the web masters were kept seperate from the producers. you always bang on about the internet being this and that and web masters being the holly grail but the internet bubble got saturated some years back and now all its good for is p2p and cheap 15 min down loads and oh yes the am-cams. for me personaly the internet holds no interest and offers no reall pay back for such a large investment and so unfortunatley jumping in my disco 3 and battling round the m25 to meet with some producers and web masters who cant see how different internet downloads and dvd final product are would be a waste of fuel. on the other hand if its a meeting of dvd final product producers id be there with me cheque book pronto.

[Joe A]

Emprex..

I emailed you this question and I'll post it here:

If you haven't joined the site how do you know it hasn't been updated.

I've seen a lot of sites that don't announce their latest updates on the tour but the members get to see them

Burt....

I could post something that might be to your advantage here, which when mentioned to your "dvd final product producers" wasn't poo poo'd even though it was from a person who is 99% a webmaster.... The net is now for more than p2p and 15 min downloads than you realise.... As a webmaster I noticed this money making idea that is now being used, but not one producer in the UK does this and I know it makes a lot of money, as I sell the US versions

[EMPREX]

OK Joe A

You are missing the point, I was going to join one of your sites and as I said the tour simply put me off!!

Or is this a case of when it comes to Joe A, a potential customer is not allowed to make a comment:))

As you seem to be the Overlord of the UK Adult Industry, you are suggesting that the way for UK Producers to succeed is the follow you're ground-breaking lead.

Produce static tours, so the surfer doesn't know how often the content is updated.

Design tours that look as amateur as possible.

Offer Video tasters that look like they have been shot on a mobile phone.
And then, get on a fans based forum and tell everyone else how it should be done )

To be honest I had never heard of you before coming on here but by the tone of your posts, I thought that you must be a big player and that Joe A was an alias for the owner big US concern like Nasty Dollars or Bang Bus.

(Perhaps they should stop updating their tours and adopt the Joe A, school of Webmaster wizardry as well)

So come on Joe A, you seem to love this board why don't you tell us just how much of a Big Player you are?

As Mad Bert says "Dont tell me how good you are, show me"

The thing is CUSTOMER is king as far as i,m concerned and i spend a small fortune joining adult websites.....why you may ask?? well because i can afford to and i love variety but just because i can afford to doesnt mean i will pay for sub standard product!!!

''Why buy a robin reliant when you can buy a Bently''

[Mad Burt]

im getting a little miffed with this constant deletion of my posts but anyway ill finish this one by saying if its a meeting of dvd final product producers ill be there with me cheque book pronto.

[Archangel]

well it would be gaining advice and contacts for me. For starting in the business. The producers would pass on their advice, have alugh or maybe even get an assistant.

I mean no offense but if you guys rae just meeting in a pub its not like its some exclusive world conference of high flying porn producers. I mean are the directors of vivd going to be there? Or Adam Galzier? Or any of the big name stars/poducers of American porn?

I don't think so.

It seems like an informal gathering of uk porn makers that, well how you put it , are just being exclusive and and a bit stuck up when really its an informal gathering for a pint to talk abou tthe industry. In which case I wouldnt see the problem in people who wnt to be a part of the industry going.

but since you says thats a no then I wont go.

[one eyed jack]

As far as I know, it was all dvd producers. Some webmasters are included because they release dvds also...Some models have crossed over into producing also ie Sandie Caine and I'm sure many more to come...

People who dont produce anything for dvd sale shouldnt really bother but are more than welcome to make a point in the general discussion forum

[Mad Burt]

having looked through the list of attendees its mostly web masters wanting to get in to video. anyway you do appear from your post to have a problem with me and question my relevance so im probably wasting my time replying but i will say i do NOW create my own stuff as well as having brought a back cat and i have got cash for serious producers meetings