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Re: why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 6:47 pm
by al ramone1
thanks for the link. so if a dvd is pal or ntsc, it won't play on a standard dvd player?
and i agree there's a time and place for intense or painful sex. my objection is to the pervasiveness of this attitude, particularly in the american adult movie industry.
many videos pride themselves on gaping assholes and nonstop, intense fucking.
of course this attitude is also prevalent in euro porn, such as the german ccc john thompson stuff (widely available in the US, by the way).
but it's balanced out by the well done, erotic stuff -- color climax, pleasure busen, ribu, marc dorcel etc. even the women in those crazy german fisting videos have smiles on their faces!
there's no american equivalent that i know of. as someone else pointed out, american films simply don't have the "erotic touch" found in italy, france and germany.
ironically, there's much eroticism to be found in the US, but it's always used in tame or ridiculous ways, like in shoe ads or disney sitcoms. There's simply no talent or desire to bring that to adult movies.
thank god for tinto brass.
-al
Re: why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:55 pm
by alec
NTSC is the TV system used in the USA. PAL is the TV system used In Europe. Most European DVD players automatically convert the signal from an NTSC DVD into something that will play on a European TV. But if they don't then a modern European TV or VCR will do this anyway.
In the USA, it is much less common for equipment to cope automatically with PAL disks and tapes. However, DVD players which automatically convert a PAL disk to NTSC output do exist, e.g.
Re: why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:42 pm
by Herschi
I would like to add something.
It is the television set must importantly recognize the signal.
Otherwise only black white pictures will appear.
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Herschi
Why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:27 am
by pudgym
But the "classics" are still frequently edited for content. Even new DVD reissuances of 1970s & early 1980s theatrical releases omit scenes of bondage with penetration, fisting, and watersports; and scenes which involved non-consensual activity have been edited to within a frame of their lives. {Radley Metzger's "Private Afternoons Of Pamela Mann", whose last scene is essentially a gang-rape, has been re-edited to seconds worth of flashes instead of the 7+ minutes it originally unspooled.} To find these movies uncut, one has to do business with Berne Convention purveyors, who are typically working with a mid-1980s VHS tape of it.
Answering the original question: Three words = Lowest Common Denominator.
"Raincoaters" will rent everything that is released nowadays where the female is called a denigrating name(s), is treated harshly by the males, and ends in a facial(s).
Because they rent everything which the major companies release in this genr?; they are profitable to the major companies. So the major companies make more and more releases in this genr?. If the major companies actually do release a video which is not like this, it gets lost in the tsunami of the "raincoater" videos. It never finds its intended non-raincoater audience. The company loses money on its release. The company asks itself, "Why release a video in a genr? which is not profitable for us?"
International exchange
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:46 am
by pudgym
Most DVD players now will play any region's DVD. It may even be possible for one to download the source code which, when 'flashed' into a DVD player, will bypass checking the DVD's region.
But it seems to me that here; it has become the erotic 'El Dorado'. We want something we do not have.
I want to view the European erotic (preferably explicit) movies which were released in the 1970s; whether they were lensed in Germany, Italy, Greece, Sweden, Denmark, Netherlands, Belgium, France, wherever.
And many of you in Europe would love to see the bare-bones, yet somehow mildly-appealing 'cheapies' which were less than an hour long, and were usually shown in triple bills in U.S. "combat-zone" theaters.
If you can find yours, we can find ours.
In our case, the powers-that-be would prefer we not find them. But I believe there are still enough people here who will perservere. In your case, I believe it is moreso that nobody expected these movies to have any shelf life. So an erotic movie went out. Maybe it made money. Maybe it didn't. But in either case, its producer & distributor lost track of it after a year or two. In its quest for the 'fast buck' {try that for a tongue-twister}, it did not consider the long-term ancillary value of it.
Re: International exchange
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 12:10 pm
by alec
pudgym wrote:
> Most DVD players now will play any region's DVD. It may even be
> possible for one to download the source code which, when
> 'flashed' into a DVD player, will bypass checking the DVD's
> region.
>
Just to clarify, NTSC and PAL is a different question from region code. Most porn DVDs are region 0. It is true however, that some European porn DVDs are region 2 (and even more so if they are sexploitation DVDs), but if the company is trying to sell (and has the rights to sell) worldwide, like Marc Dorcel and some Colmax DVDs, they produce NTSC Region 0 DVDs safe in the knowledge that almost all DVD players in Europe will be able to cope with NTSC disks and region 0 DVDs will play anywhere.
Re: Why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:49 am
by ohwonder
Try MaxHardcore just beats Euro stuff .......
Re: helpful DVD site
Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:12 pm
by Deuce Bigolo
Everything to do with Dvds is all explained here
cheers
B...OZ
Re: Why is american porn so awful?
Posted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:25 pm
by DavidS
Really?