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Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:06 am
by Milk Tray Man
bluewomble858 wrote:
> i don't see what's so strange about wanting to get to know
> people.
"I don't see what's so strange ...." you say.
Well there you go! Notwithstanding the fact that you're not "getting to know" a porn star any more than you are "getting to know" say Cameron Diaz or Julia Roberts when you read an interview with them in some magazine (they are still remote, unobtainable strangers who you will probably never even meet), you prove my point exactly, i.e. one person's "strange" is someone else's "normal". And vice versa.
I'm not condemning you for having that mindset. Nor do I have a problem with it. You are what you are - and you even describe yourself as "different". Just saying that some will think it strange and/or pointless in the context of watching porn.
Like I said before, provided that everything is legal and consensual, who are we to judge or criticise?
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 8:44 am
by bluewomble858
Milk Tray Man wrote:
> Like I said before, provided that everything is legal and
> consensual, who are we to judge or criticise?
>
apparently you. i tried to e-mail this site three times to request my removal from this forum. i guess i'll just have to live with having a account i will no longer use.
good day to you sir.
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:29 am
by Milk Tray Man
bluewomble858 wrote:
> apparently you. i tried to e-mail this site three times to
> request my removal from this forum. i guess i'll just have to
> live with having a account i will no longer use.
>
> good day to you sir.
My apologies if I have hurt your sensitivities by not agreeing unquestioningly with everything you say. But that's what forums are all about. If you post your views up, expect them to be commented on, discussed and/or challenged. If you ask a question, be prepared to receive answers that you might not agree with or like.
Have a good weekend.
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:34 am
by alicia_fan_uk
I was presuming I'd missed some of the posts, as Milk Tray Man seems to have gone out of his way to help respond and rationalise the OP (with tact and balance).
Maybe best to chalk this one up to something lost in translation.
Milk Tray Man, you come off well in these exchanges. But then that's just me judging.....
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 4:33 pm
by bluewomble858
you don't expect me not to respond after i've been insulted, seeing i've got nothing left to lose, i might as well start shooting from the hip now.
alicia_fan_uk wrote:
> Maybe best to chalk this one up to something lost in
> translation.
lost in translation??? i'm good at translation, i know english slang, but let me translate this one. basically your saying i'm stupid because i don't know what a cuckold is and i should'nt know when i'm being called stupid.
Milk Tray Man wrote:
> Well there you go! Notwithstanding the fact that you're not
> "getting to know" a porn star any more than you are "getting to
> know" say Cameron Diaz or Julia Roberts when you read an
> interview with them in some magazine (they are still remote,
> unobtainable strangers who you will probably never even meet),
> you prove my point exactly, i.e. one person's "strange" is
> someone else's "normal". And vice versa.
>
> I'm not condemning you for having that mindset. Nor do I have a
> problem with it. You are what you are - and you even describe
> yourself as "different". Just saying that some will think it
> strange and/or pointless in the context of watching porn.
i'm also good at this translation since i can translate alot of languages including this one and your basically calling me a freak because of the way i think and believe.
Milk Tray Man wrote:
> If you post your views up, expect them to be
> commented on, discussed and/or challenged. If you ask a
> question, be prepared to receive answers that you might not
> agree with or like.
i can expect to be disagreed with, i can live with that. however, i can't live with being called names is a typical backhand catty british manner.
alicia_fan_uk wrote:
> Milk Tray Man, you come off well in these exchanges. But then
> that's just me judging.....
so he comes off well calling me a freak in laymans terms. i guess i should call everybody who likes to watch their misses through the keyhole or likes to urinate on women's feet freaks to. i don't agree with their fetishes, but i leave it at that.
Re: Wrong explanations/definitions
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:50 pm
by frankthring
Dear Bluewormbles, I hope several people, especially Essex Lad, have explained
what a cuckold is to you by now. It refers to the male (ie husband) whose
wife commits adultery. He doesn`t need to know about it and in olden times
frequently did not (though the rest of the world might have gossiped). For
example, if you read the 17th century John Aubrey`s "Brief Lives" which is
full of gossip he loves relating cases of famous aristocratic men who were
cuckolds and, (by implication), whose wives were far from virtuous.
As a porn director I must create an humiliation S/M scenario for those
guys who a) like the idea of being thus humiliated b) alongside guys who
like the thought of a well endowed other man fucking their wives. Thus a real
cuckold, and the Cuckold Genre of Porn Film, are not the same thing
exactly. If you are a submissive male, into role play, humiliation, turned on
by sexually aggressive women who sneer at your pathetic weakness, small
cock etc and demand a well hung stud, then the fantasy works. If this is not
your bag, then so be it. One man`s porn is another man`s poison.
Re: Wrong explanations/definitions
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:13 pm
by bluewomble858
frankthring wrote:
>
> Dear Bluewormbles, I hope several people, especially Essex
> Lad, have explained
> what a cuckold is to you by now. It refers to the male (ie
> husband) whose
> wife commits adultery. He doesn`t need to know about it and
> in olden times
> frequently did not (though the rest of the world might have
> gossiped). For
> example, if you read the 17th century John Aubrey`s "Brief
> Lives" which is
> full of gossip he loves relating cases of famous aristocratic
> men who were
> cuckolds and, (by implication), whose wives were far from
> virtuous.
>
> As a porn director I must create an humiliation S/M scenario
> for those
> guys who a) like the idea of being thus humiliated b)
> alongside guys who
> like the thought of a well endowed other man fucking their
> wives. Thus a real
> cuckold, and the Cuckold Genre of Porn Film, are not the same
> thing
> exactly. If you are a submissive male, into role play,
> humiliation, turned on
> by sexually aggressive women who sneer at your pathetic
> weakness, small
> cock etc and demand a well hung stud, then the fantasy works.
> If this is not
> your bag, then so be it. One man`s porn is another man`s
> poison.
yes, i understand now and i don't like it. but what bothers me is why somebody would get off on something like that??? last i checked, a marriage is about trust.
for a example, a woman named diana marries a man named lawrence. diana is madly in love with lawrence, diana has never slept with lawrence. diana has never even seen lawrence naked. but on their wedding night, to consummate the marriage, diana finds out lawrence has a 5 inch cock that she can not get off on at all and finds it inadequate. your telling me that lawrence, being a sweet kind man, should be cheated on by diana so she could get her taste of a man she's not married to's 9 inch cock???
there is a word for that, it's called fornication. now i'm not a religious man, quite frankly, i'm a atheist. however, if you make a vow "til death do us part", that probably counts as a promise to stay commited to each other.
the problem i have with society is the individual mindset of the masses that when rules are handed down, they either don't play by those rules or find some exception to the rule so they can achieve the means to an end they seek to accomplish. if you marry somebody, your stuck with them because you made a promise, no exceptions. if your in a religion, you should follow it to the letter. if your friends with somebody, you should go to the ends of the earth for them. it is why i feel our society lacks discipline and thus, people suffer on a moral level.
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 7:18 pm
by Milk Tray Man
bluewomble858 wrote:
> i don't agree with their fetishes, but i leave it at that.
Well clearly you don't leave it at that do you. Otherwise why start a thread on it saying how strange you think it is?
bluewomble858 wrote:
> you don't expect me not to respond after i've been insulted,
> seeing i've got nothing left to lose, i might as well start
> shooting from the hip now.
Get over yourself, and stop being a crybaby.
Nobody in this thread, least of all me, has called you stupid, a freak or anything else even remotely insulting, either directly or in a "backhand manner".
On the contrary, as far as I can recall all the replies you have received in this and the other threads you started have been courteous and/or helpful, with people (myself included) addressing your questions and trying to offer up advice and suggestions and their own take on things for you to consider.
Your misinterpretations in your last post of what I said higher up are too silly to warrant a response, so I'm not going to waste time trying to engage you in any further conversation. I'll just say that my advice would be to wind your neck in because you're now just making yourself look daft. But that's just my advice. You are of course free to continue to throw petulant, melodramatic tantrums and make a complete arse of yourself at any time (now I'm insulting you!).
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2015 10:50 pm
by bluewomble858
Milk Tray Man wrote:
> Your misinterpretations in your last post of what I said higher
> up are too silly to warrant a response, so I'm not going to
> waste time trying to engage you in any further conversation.
> I'll just say that my advice would be to wind your neck in
> because you're now just making yourself look daft. But that's
> just my advice. You are of course free to continue to throw
> petulant, melodramatic tantrums and make a complete arse of
> yourself at any time (now I'm insulting you!).
well you responded now did you. as for you not wasting any more time on further conversation, you did'nt have to take the time out of your day to respond. you could have ended it at that. as far as accusing me of being petulant, having melodramtic tantrums and (as you brits would say) making a arse of myself. how else am i suppost to react if i'm being insulted by a boorish lout who thinks he's better than me and is trying to instigate a flame war when i am here to conversate in a peaceful manner??? i will not "wind my neck down", as the football chant goes, my name is bluewomble858, i do what i want.
now i know what a cuckold is, i disagree with it and leave the matter closed. consitter this thread over and as long as nobody else responds, i will not. to everyone else, good day. to mr. milk tray man, i hope your milk sours to match your hospitality.
Re: somebody explain cuckold to me
Posted: Sat Mar 14, 2015 10:14 am
by alicia_fan_uk
So it seems that even the phrase "lost in translation" can get lost in translation. I guess that's irony. Things aren't always literal, nor necessarily how someone immediately perceives it.
You can please some of the people some of the time, but....