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Max

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 2:40 pm
by David Johnson
So the Who aren't really the Who. The Rolling Stones aren't really the Rolling Stones. Fleetwood Mac aren't really Fleetwood Mac. Queen aren't really Queen. AC/DC aren't really AC/DC. THe Manic Street Preachers aren't really the Manic Street Preachers. New Order aren't really New Order. Take That aren't really Take That.

Infamy, infamy. All these bands who are cheating me, have it infamy. And it's Xmas.

Re: Max

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:05 pm
by max_tranmere
A band can evolve I guess, in the same way The Who replaced Keith Moon with Kenny Jones as a full time member they could have later replaced him with another full time drummer, who would appear in band photos - and also have replaced John Entwistle with a full time permanent bassist who would also appear in the band photos. A bit like the Stones did after Brian Jones, when Mick Taylor joined - then 6 years later, when he left, with Ronnie Wood.

Re: The Who

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:10 pm
by max_tranmere
Interesting comments from people. I can see what people are saying to a point, and I agree that if the remaining two members of The Who put on a good show and have a quality accompanying band, then it is still worth going to see them if you like the music the original four did. As I said to David above though, I think they could have a permanent bassist and drummer in the band, and all four members appear in band photos. I've heard of four-pieces becoming three-pices, but rarely two-pieces. What would happen if Daltrey or Townshend either didn't want to do it any more or one of them got run over by a bus? Would 'The Who' just be one person?

Re: The Who

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:31 pm
by Essex Lad
max_tranmere wrote:

> Interesting comments from people. I can see what people are
> saying to a point, and I agree that if the remaining two
> members of The Who put on a good show and have a quality
> accompanying band, then it is still worth going to see them if
> you like the music the original four did. As I said to David
> above though, I think they could have a permanent bassist and
> drummer in the band, and all four members appear in band
> photos. I've heard of four-pieces becoming three-pices, but
> rarely two-pieces. What would happen if Daltrey or Townshend
> either didn't want to do it any more or one of them got run
> over by a bus? Would 'The Who' just be one person?

The Sweet are. Well, The Sweets are since there are two them with a band each. If you go to see one of the 80s reunion shows there rarely are the complete line-up. Three of five in Five Star, only Oakey, Sulley and Catherall in The Human League, only Clare Grogan in Altered Images...

Max

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:36 pm
by David Johnson
"As I said to David above though, I think they could have a permanent bassist and drummer in the band,"

Oh no you didn't. You said that because Moon and Entwistle were no longer alive "I'm sure it was an enjoyable show, but it's not really 'The Who'. The Who was the original four,"

Besides Pino Palladino has been playing bass for them on tour since 2002 and Zak Starkey, drums since the nineties.

"What would happen if Daltrey or Townshend either didn't want to do it any more or one of them got run over by a bus? Would 'The Who' just be one person?"

Probably not. Daltrey as lead singer is one of the main focal points as an original group member. And Townsend was the main songwriter. As an extreme example, if neither of them were around it would not be the Who, but a cover band.

EssexLad

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 3:57 pm
by max_tranmere
I would imagine most of the bands you mention have replaced people with others who would likely now be full members and appear in the photos, with the exception of Five Star which I heard had rather ridiculously gone out as a three-piece in spite of their name.

I think The Human League should have replaced people. Since about 1986, with their "I'm Only Human" single (I remember that from when I was at school) it has just been those three. The Human League are similar to The Who as far as not getting new full-timers and just touring as a slimmed down version. I would say the same about them as I do The Who - replace people.

David

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 4:00 pm
by max_tranmere
This comment of mine which you and EssexLad have replied to I posted at 18:10. I posted another, above, at 18:05 - five minutes earlier, in reply to a comment you posted at 17:40. You appear not to have read my comment.

Max

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:26 pm
by David Johnson
Irrespective of that post you stated that "I'm sure it was an enjoyable show, but it's not really 'The Who'. The Who was the original four,"

No ifs, no buts to use a popular Call Me Dave quote.

I think you are wrong. And like I said already Starkey and Palladino have been touring with them playing live, for yonks.

Re: Max

Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2014 5:39 pm
by welkram


Sounds a bit like "Triggers Broom".