pistorius

[JamesW]

Sam Slater wrote:

> Or if he was black himself, he'd have been convicted of murder
> by now.


Because the investigating police officer was black, the committing magistrate was black and the judge was black, and you think they would all have been prejudiced against a black?

[JamesW]

Arginald Valleywater wrote:

> Yep. If Pistol Pistorius was black the local Police would have
> kicked the living shit out of him then shot him for fun.


Because black people don't like other black people?

[Sam Slater]

Studies in America have shown black people to be prejudiced more against other black people than white people.

Not so sure about SA, but it's not unheard of.

[JamesW]

So what do you think about Arginald Valleywater's claim that in a country where 80% of the police are black, the police are likely to shoot a black man just for fun? Are black people THAT prejudiced more against other black people than white people.

[frankthring]

There is something utterly unpleasant about Pistorius that I can`t put my
finger on exactly - perhaps a story that does not totally add up for events
on the night of the killing....perhaps his pathetic act in court, all sobs and
drivelling.... perhaps his cocky gun craziness..... Then, again, as I am a
dirty old pornographer, perhaps I am a bit pissed off that he killed such a
hot babe as luscious blonde Reeva. Heck, I would have liked to have seen
her on lobstertube with a fat cock in her tight slim ass !! She looked like a
great fuck.

[Essex Lad]

Robches wrote:

> Arginald Valleywater wrote:
>
> > If he had shot a black person it wouldn't have made
> court.....
>
> Well, presumably this "black person" would have been a home
> invader, so no, he wouldn't. If that is what he sincerely
> believed, then he is no more guilty than the cops who shot
> Harry Stanley or Jean Charles de Menezes.

Not sure a burglar of any colour would have gone to use the bathroom...

[Sam Slater]

I'm guessing this is in reply to me, James?

Arg is being Arg. Obviously his thoughts are a little more far-fetched than mine, which is about cynicism and an inner, probably subliminal prejudice rather than a hatred of one's own ethnicity.

But it has been shown that black police officers and citizens are actually more suspicious and cynical of black perpetrators in America, than white perpetrators. Black police officers are far more likely to shoot or use unnecessary force against black suspects than white suspects too.

I guess that black prejudice in society can creep into black people within that society too.

There was another study in California, asking people if they'd feel more scared walking past a group of Black youths or White youths on a quiet street at night. Black people were just as likely as Hispanic, Asian and White people in saying they'd feel more scared walking past a group of Black youths.

[Robches]

Essex Lad wrote:

> Robches wrote:
>
> > Arginald Valleywater wrote:
> >
> > > If he had shot a black person it wouldn't have made
> > court.....
> >
> > Well, presumably this "black person" would have been a home
> > invader, so no, he wouldn't. If that is what he sincerely
> > believed, then he is no more guilty than the cops who shot
> > Harry Stanley or Jean Charles de Menezes.
>
> Not sure a burglar of any colour would have gone to use the
> bathroom...

That point is irrelevant. It depends on what a person truly believed at the time. Harry Stanley had a chair leg in a shopping bag, Jean Charles de Menezes had nothing at all, neither posed any threat, but the police who killed them, we are told, sincerely believed they did, and hence they committed no crime.

[David Johnson]

Have you any specific evidence to back up your views in this response to James?

If so, can you please provide the links? You may also like to contact the New York Times they appear to need better informed people like yourself.

[Sam Slater]

Again, David misses my point entirely, which was about Black prejudice infecting all of society to the point where even Black people can discriminate against their own race. It wasn't about White police officers targeting Black suspects, which is a separate point and not something I would argue against.

Typical or him, really.