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I might be wrong, of course, but I suspect the SNP are McFucked.

What would really cap Alex's week is if the Queen announces that if the Scottish people vote for independence, she is not interested in being their monarch!

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That would be interesting wouldn't it?

I wonder if Salmond is being backed by China or Russia or someone else and is merely trying to de-stabilize the UK? Bit like the KGB funding trade unionists in the 70s......I wonder what he will be doing after a NO vote?

Well the impression that this English person gets is that Salmond and Sturgeon are bonkers.

Take their line on the currency union with the remainder of the UK using the pound. The Salmond argument is that once Scotland becomes an independent country it is Scotland's right to go into a currency union with Britain which involves Britain being a lender of last resort. And Salmond says that unless Britain agrees to that they will potentially renege on their share of the liabilities e.g. the debts arising from the Royal Bank of Scotland collapse.

My initial reaction to this is go fuck yourself Salmond/Sturgeon. If Britain is going to go into a currency union with Scotland I would expect the British people to have some say in the matter via a referendum. In the same way if some bright spark in Westminster suggested we join the euro I would expect a referendum. And I would anticipate that the vast majority of people would vote not to enter a currency union with Scotland.

As for the EU, Salmond/Sturgeon's line seems to be that the President of the EU doesn't know what he is talking about because he disagrees with their view. To me it is absolutely obvious that Scotland would be a new country and therefore would have to apply as a new country to the EU and that will take years and years - not the 18 months Salmond and Sturgeon are talking about.

As I said, bonkers both of them.

I'm all for the Scots getting independence if they want it. In their shoes I think I'd want it too. It's none of our business.

However, this currency sharing thing has irked me somewhat. Salmond seems to think that sharing a currency will be the best thing for the English, Welsh and Northern Irish too........and we're supposed to just take his word for it. Sorry, but if sharing a currency affects all parties, then all parties should have a say in whether to go ahead with it. We cannot have Scotland dictate what's best for the Northern Irish, Welsh or English.

Well the impression that this English person gets is that Salmond and Sturgeon are bonkers

Believe it or not that is what people up here think too. I don't know anyone who is voting yes and people have a general disregard for him and the munchkin.

He want's to have his cake and eat it. Cherry pick all the good bits like currency ect and leave what he doesn't want. I truly believe this is now a personal crusade and he want's Scotland to go it alone at ANY cost. Anything less than that and he will have egg on his face!.

Exactly right.

On the one hand you have Salmond complaining about being "bullied" by Osborne over the currency and yet he is insisting that unless Britain agrees to currency union with the newly independent Scotland, the Scots will renege on their liabilities. That will go down really well with the money markets.

Kettle..pot.. black.

This is all part of the SNP's independence lite approach i.e. the only thing that will change in Scotland is that we will have full control over our spend/tax etc and we will become just like Norway - really wealthy.

Like the pound? No worries we are keeping that.
Want Britain to be the lender of last resort and underwrite any losses that Scotland might incur? No worries that will happen.
Fond of the Queen and want to wave the Scottish flag when she comes to visit? No worries she will carry on being our monarch.
Like being part of the EU? Great, we will carry on being a member. The EU member states will be pushing each other aside to welcome us in as a new member state.
Want to be part of Nato? No probs. They don't mind if we get rid of those nasty nukes in Fastlane.

Anybody against this vision? Err, all the main political parties in Westminster stating there will be no currency union. Oh that is just bluff and bullying. The British people will be absolutely delighted to be in a currency union with the newly independent Scotland. After all, the euro has worked fantastically well as a currency union hasn't it?

Err, the President of the EU stating that it will be difficult if not impossible for Scotland to join the EU as a newly formed country. Oh that is just bluff and bullying. The President of the EU knows nothing compared to us. Spain and Belgium will be delighted if we can fast track the newly independent Scotland into the EU. After all Spain will be delighted to show Catalonia how easy it is to become independent and rejoin the EU and Belgium can provide a road map to the Flemish citizens who want to be independent.

IN the immortal words of Victor Meldrew "I just don't believe it" .

Salmond seems to be losing his way, the wheels are coming off like I said
earlier. As Dennis Healy once said "when you're in a hole you should
stop digging". This is a mess for him and its worsening by the day. He hasn't
thought this through at all.

An independent Scotland, which perhaps for the foreseeable future would not be in the EU, will require a manned border with passport control and possibly visas to enter England, would it not? Cant see that helping the Scottish economy one bit.