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Re: Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:13 pm
by David Johnson
Another silly post without thought.
"And your own party is just as much to blame as the Tories."
I suppose the clue is "over decades". Of course it includes the Labour government!!
"Landlords cannot charge whatever they want. They can only charge what the markets will stand as can almost any private company."
What a stupid comment. The housing market will stand what the government is prepared to pay in housing benefit. The whole point which as usual you have completely and utterly missed is that many Western European countries have rent controls as has Britain in the past and this policy is no more "Marxist" than the government currently setting rail fare increases.
"Perhaps Rolnik should get her own house in order before telling us what to do."
!laugh! !laugh!. Do stop.
"Let's see if it is, shall we?"
!laugh! !laugh!
From now on I will only respond to those of your posts that show they were written by someone older than a seven year old. Shite like this post, I will ignore.
Re: Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:25 pm
by Essex Lad
Thank fuck for that. I won't have to read any more of your trite tripe.
Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:43 pm
by David Johnson
"You don't think Gordon Brown's profligate spending was in any way to blame for the mess we are in?"
Well all governments waste money to some extent. But rather than just chirrup the usual robotic Tory lies, let's look at the facts shall we? Click on this link and then click on the first graph.
You can see that in 2007, when the global recession started hitting, the deficit was ?36.4 billion. This figure, ?36.4 billion was less than the deficit of most years of the Major government. In addition, the graph will show you that the first 4 full years of the Labour government, 1998 to 2001, the government's finances were in surplus, something which Major didn't achieve in any single year never mind 4 years running. Nor did Thatcher ever manage this feat despite trying to privatise anything that wasn't nailed down.
So you could argue that prior to the GLOBAL financial collapse, the Labour government was far more prudent than the previous Tory government.
Re: Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 2:56 pm
by Arginald Valleywater
I wish we had a TEA party in the UK. Us proper Conservatives would have someone to vote for. As for an American telling us about social housing.....has she visited Detroit or several other rotten drug and crime addled US cities...
Argie
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:03 pm
by David Johnson
"As for an American telling us about social housing"
Good point Argie.
The Germans used to say the same about Churchill. "How can those English criticise our beloved Fuhrer? They need to put their own house in order first".
Oh and by the way, the person who wrote the report is Brazilian not American.
Re: Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:20 pm
by Essex Lad
David Johnson wrote:
> "You don't think Gordon Brown's profligate spending was in any
> way to blame for the mess we are in?"
>
I said Gordon Brown NOT the Labour government.
Re: Essex Lad
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:38 pm
by David Johnson
"I said Gordon Brown NOT the Labour government."
Well given that Gordon Brown was either Chancellor of the Exchequer or Prime Minister throughout the time of the last Labour government(s), the two are synonymous.
Would you argue that Osborne's policies have nothing to do with the Tory-led government?
Re: Extreme right wing government?
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 4:34 am
by Arginald Valleywater
The poor will not die off. They will keep banging out kids to bleed the system dry. Colleague of mine was arguing with a social housing tenant when she (aka Madame Bucketfanny) said it was a struggle bringing up 3 kids on benefits. He argued try bringing up one with both parents working, paying a mortgage, taxes, council tax etc etc. She didn't see his side of the argument and instead blamed the government (aka us taxpayers) for being mean. She could always keep her legs shut or take it up the tradeseman's for a change.
Some basic responsibility would solve a lot of financial and social problems.
Argie
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 8:18 am
by David Johnson
"Some basic responsibility would solve a lot of financial and social problems."
I said the same to Fred Goodwin at the time of RBS's collapse and would he listen? RBS got a ?20 billion support package and have been doing badly ever since. Now that would pay for a lot of child benefit, eh Argie?
Re: Argie
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:43 am
by Gentleman
Zing!