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David does not wish to hear such happy stories Zorro!!. He likes doom and gloom so he can stick it to the Tories!! !laugh!

In the last 2 years I have taken on three new people and one of my mates who has a builders supply yard has taken on a couple of guys. It is beginning to look better out there.

"In the last 2 years I have taken on three new people"

Hardly the stuff of the biggest increase in employment ever seen according to Cameron?

I had hoped you might provide something slightly more meaningful! You' ll be telling me about your Mam getting an extra shift at Poundland next. !wink!

Or do you live in an area where employing a person appears on the front page of the local paper and the opening item on local radio?

Only 1whatever it is million new jobs to account for then, Cunty.

Dave Wells wrote:

> This is absolute Tory bullshit. The figures are clearly
> massaged with people being stopped benefits or moved benefits.
> These Tories must be stopped !
>
Yes because Labour NEVER massaged the figures. That Blair geezer and that Brown bloke ? honest as the day is long. "Labour investment not Tory cuts" was the dishonest mantra of Brown before the last election...

Gentleman wrote:

> The general election, let's face it people were stupid enough
> to put them where they are now and thanks to the continual hate
> mongering and revisionist history of where all our cash went
> i.e world economy collapse all labours fault things are looking
> bleak.

That's not true. No one elected the present government...

You are dead right. There has been a huge "casualisation" of work in this country, not only in terms of zero hours contracts but also in agency work where people are forced to go down the self employed route.

"That's not true. No one elected the present government..".

Your interpretation of Gentleman's post is incorrect.

The voters in 2010 made the Tories the biggest party in electoral terms and thus gave them the wherewithal to take power, in this case with the hapless saps known as the Lib Dems. But even without the support of the Lib Dems they could have formed a minority government.

I share Gentleman's pessimism given the concerted, 4 year long programme of lies which the Tory party have adhered to like a bunch of tightly programmed robots i.e. financial collapse in the West, all Labour's fault and we, the Tories have "sorted it out".

"Hardly the stuff of the biggest increase in employment ever seen according to Cameron"

I never said it was.



"You' ll be telling me about your Mam getting an extra shift at Poundland next."

No, she is dead.

"Or do you live in an area where employing a person appears on the front page of the local paper and the opening item on local radio?"

No.

David Cameron announced that the government had created "1.6 million new jobs in the private sector".

You accounted for 5 people amongst the 1.6 million.

Thank you for your contribution.

David Johnson wrote:

people are forced to go down the
> self employed route.

Is that such a bad thing? Self-employed people tend to pay less tax than PAYE, hence why so many presenters at the BBC are self-employed...

David Johnson wrote:

> "That's not true. No one elected the present government..".
>
> Your interpretation of Gentleman's post is incorrect.
>
> The voters in 2010 made the Tories the biggest party in
> electoral terms and thus gave them the wherewithal to take
> power, in this case with the hapless saps known as the Lib
> Dems. But even without the support of the Lib Dems they could
> have formed a minority government.

But the Tories did not win the 2010 election.

>
> I share Gentleman's pessimism given the concerted, 4 year long
> programme of lies which the Tory party have adhered to like a
> bunch of tightly programmed robots i.e. financial collapse in
> the West, all Labour's fault and we, the Tories have "sorted it
> out".

I agree on that point but I don't believe anyone who had got in four years ago would have made any better a fist of it. Ed Balls wanted to do his impression of Viv Nicholson while George Osbourne wanted to be Ebenezer Scrooge.